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> Tesla's FSD has killed people [1]

I looked at the very first one on the list and it says someone drunk in a non-Tesla hit a Tesla and resulted in a death of the Tesla driver.

> According to the Albuquerque Police Department, on July 1, Sandoval-Martinez was driving drunk, speeding, and without a license when he ran a red light and hit Tiger Gutierrez’s Tesla, as well as a Toyota Corolla.

Not sure why the website is putting that under a Tesla death, probably to inflate counts since there aren't many Tesla deaths due to them being very safe cars.

Why are you attributing and referencing these incidents as FSD killing people?

If Waymo is as good as you claim why don't they release data on the number of manual interventions?

They didn't even release the video when a Waymo hit a bike while turning left at an intersection a few months ago.

Meanwhile Waymo just yesterday went the wrong way on the street.

https://abc7.com/post/wrong-waymo-driverless-car-goes-oncomi...

Waymo hits stationary pole.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAZP-RNSr0s

If Waymo is as good as you claim, then why don't they release data on the number of manual interventions>

It's just the Waymo's missteps are unlikely to show up on HN unlike Tesla's.

FSD can navigate crowds too.

They will reconfigure Crew 8 for six occupants for emergency evacuation.

Starliner will try to return uncrewed back to earth.

Why was it called an EV summit and not a union summit then?

Only UAW companies were allowed at an "EV" summit despite barely having EVs for sale because it was a quid pro quo for the UAW endorsing Biden early in his campaign.

It was a government event and not to include an American company that pioneered EVs made it a very political move.

Probably will happen, the unions hate Tesla and the administration was so scared of them that they didn't even invite Tesla to the presidential EV summit in 2021 where Biden praised GM's Mary Barra as the EV leader when Tesla had delivered over 115,000 electric cars in the United States, while General Motors produced just 26 EVs.

https://www.teslarati.com/former-tesla-exec-confirms-wsj-rep...

So won't be a big surprise if Musk is thrown into jail on some trumped up charges for giving optimistic timelines like a typical techie, meanwhile politicians lie all the time and face zero punishment.

Or they just decided to clean up the blog and remove all old releases prior to 2019. Nothing from 2018 and before in the blog anymore.

Misleading, all releases prior to 2019 have been removed from the blog.

False, Tesla took the crown back in 2024, which wouldn't happen if BYD was actually "growing very very fast".

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/byd-ma...

You won't see that story on HN unlike the Q4 2023 news which was on HN several times because only bad news about Tesla gets upvoted here and on Reddit. And the propaganda works, because as you can see people start believing in falsehoods.

BYD pure electric sales were down 43% and you say they're growing very very fast? What?

On Reddit a comment like this with a counterpoint and source can get you permabanned from large subreddits like /r/news because it goes against the agenda. Recently it happened to people posting SpaceX responses.

No, Tesla outsells BYD in pure electric vehicles.

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/byd-ma...

> If the agency that's tasked with checking these limits tells you to stop until they can verify what you are doing is within regulatory limits, you stop. Which Musk's company failed to do

Not true, see below.

> “Throughout our ongoing coordination with both TCEQ and the EPA, we have explicitly asked if operation of the deluge system needed to stop and we were informed that operations could continue,”

EPA and TCEQ have enough authority to stop SpaceX if they're actually doing something harmful.

> If Tesla workers in Sweden want to unionize, they will

Exactly, the media doesn't need to make up fake news to make Tesla look bad, which they have been, and is sad to see.

Let me explain it to you.

> 2. There is mercury in the water dumped by the facility, detected by the agency that is supposed to be detecting this.

The issue is that you're taking a hitpiece written by someone that appears to hate Musk for political reasons(based on her other blog articles) as truth. Published by CNBC who has hated Tesla and Musk since forever because they mean fewer profits for legacy car companies and big oil.

The source of confusion is a typo in the document which overstated mercury concentration by a factor of thousand, the rest is exaggeration and fiction pushed all over the news cycle and Reddit.

Does falling for misinformation in this day and age enrage you or outrage you? Does it make you wonder what else you're falling for? Or will you just get defensive and keep arguing fiction? This correction won't reach the vast majority of people who saw the headline who will continue to believe falsehoods about SpaceX. So mission accomplished for the "reporter" and CNBC. This is just sad.

Would it blow your mind to learn that similar fake news was employed by reputable news outlets like AP News on the Tesla Swedish union strike story where multiple news outlets claimed(and still do) that all 120 Tesla mechanics "walked off the job" when only about 35 did and the rest refused to participate in the strike?

Unemployment rate at 4.1% vs expected 4.0%

Hourly earnings up by 0.3% vs expected 0.3%

Geo-political mistake by China, that land is not worth having India against you.

> Also, a Camry is substantially cheaper to maintain and repair.

You have to do regular service on an ICE car and repair or replace things like the timing belt and hoses etc.

Teslas have the cheapest 10 year maintenance costs according to Consumer Reports, beating out Toyota.

https://insideevs.com/news/717341/tesla-cheapest-repair-main...

> Most importantly, they can get home "with the crew" on the Dragon capsule docked to the other side of the ISS.

I think their space suits are not compatible/rated for that.

Drive Pilot just follows the car in front and has several limitations, it doesn't even have overtaking, so I would be surprised since the parent poster says lack of automatic overtaking is a limitation.

Drive Pilot:

Works only when behind another car, it just follows that car

Cannot change lanes

Works only under 40MPH

Works only in daylight, does not work at night

Does not work in rain

Works only in traffic jams and heavy traffic

Works only on a few pre-approved roads

How is the world is FSD "severely lagging behind" this tech when FSD has none of these limitations?

Something weird about how the Mercedes tech is hyped up in message forums.

> their "self driving" feature is horribly lagging behind most other makers (constant phantom braking still a recurring problem after years and years, no proper automatic overtaking, inferior speed control and speed limit enforcement, etc)

Who are these makers that allegedly outclass Autopilot/FSD?

So far the story has been Tesla being the Apple of EVs(pioneer, small number of premium models, lots of mindshare), BYD being the Samsung(cheaper copy of Tesla), and GM/Ford etc. being the Nokia/Blackberry(legacy volume manufacturers that did not pivot to the new thing in time).

There are Tesla showrooms where you can do test drives.

The key difference that the place is owned by the car company instead of rich middlemen that engage in regulatory capture, add markups that don't go the manufacturer and degrade the experience.

> Current market leader is Mercedes with an SAE Level 3 vehicle

That's not a market leader when it just follows the car in front and has significant limitations.

Cannot even change lanes

Works only in traffic jams and heavy traffic

Works only under 40MPH

Works only on specific highways (which need to be mapped?)

Works only in daylight, does not work at night

Does not work in rain

Housing prices have gone up a lot even in places with low immigration and low population growth.

I thought it was their year of birth and was confused.

> It will rapidly evolve into something we can barely recognize because it’s not constrained by evolutionary boundaries in the same way we are

It is constrained by physical infrastructure like compute and memory, just like the brain which had to become physically bigger to get better.

It's fake news plus the hypocrisy on climate change, with folks willing to make it worse by spreading FUD about electric cars just because someone they don't like is associated with them. That's how my ideals on climate change changed, can't help folks that won't help themselves. It's not worth any sacrifices on my end. Not to mention promoting CCP companies over US ones for the same reason.

I thought fake news was mostly a right wing thing until I saw fake news about Musk and Tesla perpetuate among allegedly smarter liberals, the whole emerald mine thing being a great example. It changed how I was going to vote because I cannot stand fake news based on agendas.

What's EA? Electronic Arts?

They only started supporting open source after Windows 8 App Store started threatening their revenue and profits. Their games and client are not open source. They want to continue taking 30% if desktop Linux takes off.