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Hmm... I half expected this to be a joke and the post about how they had to compile it themselves and were trying to get the dependencies squared away.

Friends don't let friends run Flash. Does Gentoo have Firejail readily available? That would have prevented this, I'm pretty sure.

Well, there are other choices. I don't think it's limited to cemeteries or factories. There are houses and parks, things of that nature.

It makes sense. Some comedian used to joke about the best land being taken up by golf courses and cemeteries. So, that has always stuck with me and I've long since planned on getting cremated.

I'd prefer a sky burial but that's difficult, or so I am told.

You'll have to take that up with the media. I can only go by what they were calling it and what we called it during the fun phase of learning why it broke, who was involved, and how far over budget it just might go.

I had zero to do with the project. Google tells me you're right, but Google also tells me the media called it Big Berth. Don't blame me, blame them.

All that research and you couldn't Google, 'twitter free speech complaints.'

There, just highlight and search. Tada!

I'm way up outside Rangeley, Maine. I even have true old growth and there weren't many natives in the area. So, there are some places where it's a good guess. They aren't easy to get to, of course.

Of course you can. However, if your protest is done in such a manner that it negates their ability to speak, you've taken away their rights.

Oh, Milo is just a trolling attention whore. He's harmless. You should go spend a day on voat.co. If you want to, let me know. I'll go guide you around. You will see horrible people. There are some good people but they are the minority.

Nah, that's still going to leave people angry. He also shouldn't name the victim, that is him asserting control.

Damned right. It is very scary. Fortunately, more people are starting to fight back. I've got a ready army of supporters, but they are Nazis and I'm not sure how helpful they will be.

The ACLU and EFF are busy right now. But they are on my side. They put up announcements but aren't able to do much. So, I keep doing what I have been doing.

I get two or three converts each time. I watch the karma change. I see the replies.

If you're not supporting free speech, stand over there and let us do it. When it finally clicks in, come join us - but you will be defending horrible speech. Horrible...

I go and immerse myself in this speech. I make it know on that I am not one of them. I go to voat and tell them my race and political views. I tell them that I'm there to fight for free speech. They actually accept me. Mostly... I've got a few to move out of their white nationalist gangs and one is getting a tattoo removed. So, it's a start.

I did t read his, so have graded it yet.

In host country. Outside that, the user must follow their laws. The States don't have different speech laws. Not different enough to matter. Those get tossed when they get too SCOTUS.

If you read my posts, you'd see I already commented on what I felt about the current laws. They are right here in this big thread.

I was online in the 80s. I have an account on voat. I visit Slashdot. I should be ok. ;-)

Yes, because I'm comparing it with the apologies we usually see.

On the list of public apologies, I give him a B+. he could have done better and he is not going to make everyone happy with his effort. It looks written by him. It looks sincere. It looks honest.

Yeah, a good apology should be several pages long but this was pretty good and well above some of the others we've seen.

'I am sorry that you felt abused and that your friends encouraged you to humiliate yourself in public...'

So, yeah, it's pretty good compared to some of them.

If the speech is lawful, then I support it.

Some speech is considered unlawful and that I don't support. That is a longer subject, however.

I don't think we need 'free speech zones' at political rallies. The DNC started that. I don't like how SCOTUS moved the free speech zone away from the building. Things like that.

Lawful speech should be the default. Unlawful speech is afforded no such protections. I'm happy with those limits. Some speech is legitimately harmful.

Read the whoe thread. Even read the people I replied to.

I'll try to help you out, if you want.

You have inspired me. I'll torrent his most recent ISO and spin it up in a VM over the weekend. I will give it an honest look and be objective.

I should set a blog up before that.

If you will do me a favor, you can read all the comments that I've made in this thread. I have already explained that and answered those questions.

I support all legal speech. That's the line. If it is illegal, don't do it. If it is legal, you can do it. Just because it is legal doesn't make the speaker a good person.

I do not want to limit speech more than it already is. I'd like to expand it in a few areas. Specifically, they have been making use of free speech zones since the 1980s. This was done by the DNC. Yup. The DNC were the first to use free speech zones. Outside those zones, speech wasn't free.

Now, the front steps at the SCOTUS building are no longer a free speech zone. They moved the zone away from the public entrance. I want that fixed. I want all of them eliminated on property owned or paid for by the government. I want all public areas to be free speech zones.

I love me some speech. I really do.

I feel the same way about the government forcing me to house troops. I feel the same way about firearms. I can go on...

All lawful speech should be permitted. Nobody is obligated to provide a platform and nobody is objigated to listen.

Really, take five minutes and read my other comments. It will probably help. If you still have questions, I'll try to help.

I don't expect to change your mind, by the way. I just give you a point where you can pick a direction. These same rights I mention, they are also your rights. I am positive you say things that people think are offensive and hurtful. Well, you have that right. I aim to make sure you can keep that right.

I just looked and can't find it. Big Bertha had stopped and it came up on Slashdot. Having some familiarity, I was the resident expert. So, I tracked down all the project info and was able to find the person who'd modeled the traffic - id known him for years but he died before the project was completed.

I can't find this at Slashdot. I went on for hours and answer a ton of questions. A couple of days later, I was still answering questions. More and more info piled in and we were able to find online documents squirreled away in strange places.

It was a neat write up and a bunch of people helped and asked questions. I'd link it, but it seems to have gone missing.

Either way, it was a hell of a project. I had nothing to do with it. I do know some of the folks involved but was retired before this and I mostly worked East of the Mississippi.

Ah well... There is a lot that goes into infrastructure. It was awesome getting to see it. My favorite work was field work. I'd escape the office and do field work out of dinghy hotels. Someone has to collect the data.

So, I've seen them tunnel, blast, pave, line, and more. I've helped sign crews and driven a grader. None of that was actually a part of my job, but I am a five year old.

Either way, boring holes is tough and things break a lot. Equipment is often single use or rented. It's pretty fancy stuff. It is really just a bunch of men with heavy equipment playing in the dirt and mud - which is as awesome as you might imagine.

I used to get a police escort as I'd drive our data car down the highway. The reflectometer grabbed the data from the lane markings and stored them in the computer in the trunk. I can do that for hours. But, I digress...

You can watch documentaries and see how they bore tunnels. That's like watching a cooking show. If you get to go see it in person, that is pretty sweet.

I wish I could find my previous writeup. Oh well...

The gist of it is, it is loud, dangerous, smelly, and appears to be pretty hard work. I was never allowed to touch the machine, which is for the best. It's like a monster that we've commanded to eat a hole in a mountain. That's pretty impressive.

So, if you are thinking you're burning out, maybe you can go work for the highway department for a few years. They will teach you to drive some pretty awesome stuff.

Err... I am stuck in the past. I can figure out sourceforge well enough, but I forgot the Git tutorial already. So, I may be missing something.

Why would you want a mobile app for github? What would it do?

Github did not, in fact, help me change a front tire on my tractor! This is an outrage!

Milo, for example, will go somewhere and they will drown him out, protest, and interrupt his speech. Sometimes, they even manage to get the invite rescinded.

Slowly but surely, more and more people are seeing that people are trying to limit free speech. They are noticing that the universities are favoring certain types of speech.

What they are doing is bringing attention to the attempts to silence people. Slowly but surely, we are winning this fight. More people notice, more people speak out, more people exchange their ideas.

Their horrible speech (and Milo isn't that bad, I've listened to him) is enough to make people try to silence him. Before, it was quiet and nobody really noticed. Now, it has started to go mainstream.

Now, those who weren't paying attention are seeing the changes that have been underway since the 80s. And they are starting to speak up. They are starting to say, 'No, let them speak.'

It means more people are starting to speak out about our right to freely express and that many of those people aren't, you know, Nazis. Nazis make terrible frontmen for political movements. Really, they are just horrible people.

We are getting more socially acceptable people speaking out, instead of the outlandish.

It is a bit like how you can't mention State's Rights without being assumed to be a racist. That has been changing recently, as the subject matter is now weed and immigration. Those are easier causes for people to get behind than the racism usually associated with it.

So, it's changing. I see speech values changing rapidly. I've been at this since the 80s. I'm not dead yet, so I might just as well keep fighting the good fight. On my side are people like EFF and the ACLU, so I am in good company.

This is a dupe but the first couple of attempts got nowhere.

I left my views here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15495448

Of course I'm willing to allow it. That's what defending free speech means. Free speech means allowing the deplorable, the horrible, the hateful, and the hurtful.

It does have limits, and those limits are already encoded in the laws. I've already been over those.

I like all of my rights, even if I'm not using them. I not only want them for myself, I want them for you.

They are a part of the Navy, yes.

What I find most difficult is having to defend from the assumption that my defense of speech means that I agree with the speech.

This is untrue and a non sequitur.

I can't stand Nazis. I'm not white and they'd harm me, if given opportunity to do so. They are truly horrible people.

As horrible as they are, they still deserve basic human rights up until they violate the law. We don't preemptively punish people. We don't take rights away without due process. We operate with the assumption of innocence until proven guilty.

Well, we used to...

So, when I stand up for the rights of the deplorable, I'm assumed to be a deplorable. Never mind that I'm standing up for the rights of all, I'm now counted as one of the deplorable.

And defending against that takes some time. To be fair, I didn't have anything better to do, most of the time. Still, I've had this conversation so many times that I could probably script it and automate it.

Seriously, a sibling post noticed that I have this verbiage figured out. They aren't the first to notice. I've been having this same conversation since before the Internet was world wide. Someone has to stand up for free speech while not actually being deplorable. It's more tasteful to hear it from me than to hear it from a KKK Grand Wizard. The reception is much better, put it that way. ;-)

You can reject it all you want. You're still wrong. Free speech isn't speech you like. That's limited speech.

This isn't complicated. You wish to limit speech. That means you don't support free speech. It's okay to hold that opinion, even though I don't agree with you. You'd probably be better served if you were honest with yourself and others.

Twitter is not obligated to provide a platform of free speech. Which is good, because they don't. They are the exact opposite of free speech. Somewhere like voat.co is actually interested in free speech and, truth be told, they are as terrible as you might imagine.

But, coming in and saying that you want to limit speech and be called a free speech advocate? Save that for someone else. It borders on insulting that you think I'm that naive.

They do more harm than good, but the responses to them serve to show the importance of free speech.

Wouldn't the VM software itself using ASLR and running the VM in jails, such as firejail for Linux, reduce the risks?

I confess, I actually chuckled out loud.

I haven't seen any of their posts for a while. I hope they are okay.

Mine was prosecuting attorney. I don't think defense attorneys are considered officers of the court, but I'm not sure and it may vary by jurisdiction.