The KC-135 tanker and its derivatives also derive directly from the Dash 80, rather than the 707. It retains the 80's more narrow fuselage.
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The KC-135 tanker and its derivatives also derive directly from the Dash 80, rather than the 707. It retains the 80's more narrow fuselage.
That must be a new -- post 2007 -- thing, then.
Minimally, the pintle engine technology came out of NASA work and I suspect much of their technical knowledge comes either directly or indirectly from NASA funding.
" Clearly nobody in the "old guard" really cared about space, they just wanted to keep the money flowing. I am profoundly glad that they are being shaken up."
I think many of their engineers cared. But their corporate culture doesn't seem that interested in spaceflight, or at least spaceflight beyond the status quo.
Also swords expensive compared to spears.
Redstone: Designer: Army Ballistic Missile Agency (Now Marshall Spaceflight Center) Manufacturer: Chrysler
Atlas: Convair and its successor interests (General Dynamics, Lockheed, ULA)
Saturn V: NASA Marshall, Boeing, North American and Douglas
Ariane: EADS Astrium and Arianespace/CNES (French Space Agency)
So, yeah, they've always been commercial, but they haven't always been commerically driven or (entirely) commercially managed.
Well, we might. Particularly if the vehicle you're modeling for a hardware in the loop sim isn't entirely specified at compile time.
That seems unfair to Alonzo Church.