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> Why do I never hear about this ‘feature’ from American products like gmail which 99% of the HN audience is using? Isn’t USA a member of Five Eyes?

There is lot of hate toward Google (and other top US companies). Especially due to autobanning of accounts, 2FA etc. at the moment people have fastmail as their darling - because they are the underdog, no AI forcing in products (at the moment) etc. It is like stripe from 5 years ago.

Most have given up in snooping. Or you need to go to proton mail but it has other issues. Every company is subject to some regulations.

at the end, if the receiver of email has to also keep it safe. Do they?

This. I would have loved if this original u2f existed. Google has even removed this from their accounts.

do the meta employees that code these stuff also get tracked?

Agree... There should be some penalty to sites that want to show off their reports only to people with high end devices...

they do. You do lose 2FA with shattered screen.

Android phone can be used without google account (I do it). You cant even use Apple iPhone without.

Have you tried configuring secure boot - with - every single protection on Ubuntu /any distro?

Just google: Mathew Garrett On The State Of Boot Security implement everything and comeback.

Maybe slate with android? If you disable android in ChromeOS it a dream to use. Everything just works.

And remember normal people (i.e outside USA) already have Android phone. They just login and use. All passkeys etc. synced and running. All these are a pain in fedora etc.

No. They have more in common. I would assume this is an internal joint project.

People can install Google Services in them. Once you sign into google account then you self-certify the device. https://www.google.com/android/uncertified/?pli=1

Often people get emotional and try to baby sit (new and users that don't want to learn basics). Having a disjoint but strict, timely, disinterested connection with support forums is great. One of the great examples is coreboot or MrChromebox. He replies only when necessary.

Wait few hours. Some CTO or PR guru will post a message here.

- We are totally revamping our processes. This never happened out of incompetence. Humans make mistakes. We are contacting the client for 1 year free renewal - waiving. Will mail a coupon code. We consider this issue closed.

Those working in Google (AOSP) that write these code should be ashamed of themselves. Eventually they are doing a bad thing for the society.

Then ask all the billionares or people like you to give jobs/salaries/allowances/holidays at SV level to everyone in the world. Lets all build yachts. I am happy to get that level of pay.

Once you do illegal then that is a different issue.

Even if your company does such stuff... the number of cameras per street is far fewer then one sees in the UK or USA.

The logic of putting roof over the head is a point that is too broadly used is not at all valid for things like tailscale as... eventually most businesses at that level (tailscale revenue in 2025 was $45.2M) are crushing the customers. Either entshittification or lock-in. There is a loss of trust. The trust on SV/software is as much as bankers (during Lehmann bros crisis). Some people in HN think oh, we are growing small farmers/engineers from grassroots etc Yes, maybe - but their thinking is to exploit customers sooner or later. These smaller ones (as compared to FAANG etc) think that common man thinks that FAANG are the exploitative ones. But no. The public is getting aware that every damn calendar app or pdf viewer or router is increasing prices or wants subscription or planned obsolescence.

A roof over the head is OK but the price increases are usually to put private Yachts. The income earned by majority of these founders is already good to have lots of roofs.

Maybe my local corner coffee shop is one fellow I would not mind having subscription with...

All over Europe is generalisation. At least in France, Germany, Switzerland it is too much pain and paperwork to get any camera installed. If you are worried about chinese then seriously you cannot live.

> Screens are getting bigger and bigger, yet they make things smaller and harder to click on.

Totally true. I have some some UX designers daily driving 4k monitors with 2k resolution to see things clearly!!

if you search

NSWindowShouldDragOnGesture

you see how often this feature gets broken and type some other flag or install 3rd party app.

I wish this executive (author of that post) https://xcancel.com/laparisa?lang=en will show their browser in REAL LIFE everyday use. Really do they use it?

> people have access to old computers from ewaste imports at a reasonable price,

Are you joking?

One can get super good condition Dell latitudes with 8th gen Intel with 8GB RAM and 256GB NVMe with 1 year no-questions asked warranty (and original charger) for €100. Similar ones cost 2x or 3x in India. That is not reasonable.

> don't all live in straw mudhuts wearing loincloths

No. But not everyone is earning in Bengaluru campus. Look at the typical Rapido driver.

Please delete my account. Thanks

- How different is this from Fedora BlueFin or silverblue?

- it looks like they want to build a ChromeOS without Google.

For all those people saying negative please see all the comments when RedHat was acquired by IBM (2018)

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18321884

- Linux is better now

- Nothing bad

See this:

THE SUPREME COURT: DOMESTIC VIOLENCE; Justices Rule Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone

https://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/justices-rule-po...

The only thing I worry is DJT will ask Google Apple Amazon etc to impose a 10 % fee on sale in Rest of world to fund his bank accounts.

In a sense I am happy. All empires decline. This will decline USA forever.

From the article:

> What the devs care about is the ability to understand the product experience from the perspective of each customer. In practice, this can mean any combination or permutation of agent, user, mobile device type, laptop, desktop, point of sale device, and so on

Really? Any permutation?

Most (arse hole) devs

- Import world - as it works on their latest 1TB machine or macOS studio

- always on the latest iPhone or pixel

- Add 100 tracking that works on their own machine

- POS device? They should ask some of devs to go and work on their canteens that have POS

Apparently?

i.e -> fake news.

Totally. This would have been vital.

And how are they supposed to do it if users did not add proper 2FA (and backup those recovery keys)?

Even banks are struggling to authenticate folks. For a longtime in EU people with 3rd world passports cannot create accounts easily.

Google cannot connect identity of a person to email address easily. Or they need to create CS - that will authenticate passports? And hundreds of countries, stolen IDs?

Nay.

> The thing is that at scale your edge cases are still millions of people

> never seem to be capable of handling the other parts that come with it

Same thing with govts. If you go to driver license. passport or any govt office then there will one person with some strange issue.

For you

- WhatsApp is an exception

For others

- Google is an exception

Niche forums still exist with real humans like for example, LTT or openZFS forums. But main stream ones like XDA, reddit or YouTube etc are totally ruined by AI.