461 karma · joined January 19, 2012
Once Kagi stops transferring money to Russia, I’d be happy re-subscribe.
I really hope they reconsider their arrangement.
Two reasons: the protocol is not designed to do this - and the UI/UX is not designed to support this. There are better ways.
2) it will likely not work. There are virtual/software authenticatators (available in dev tools) that could generate a valid response without a human.
For people who are not knee-deep I think we can explain it a bit better, why passkeys replaces passwords:
With non-resident (2FA keys) you need to identify your account first. Since you don’t want to have account enumeration, this means doing a primary authentication, e.g. passwords.
With passkeys, the website can just ask your browser) to sign in with any of the accounts it has passkeys for; which result in a one click sign in.
While hardware backed Security Keys for 2FA is great 2FA, there’s a tangible cost, both in UX and $ that leaves many users left out (not everyone can afford $20 for a security key)
Source: I work at Bitwarden building our Passkey API for developers. We support both 2FA and passkeys, both in the API service and in our password manager. Feel free to ask my anything related.
I lead our work on passkey portability, which I work on daily.
Give me and my colleagues a couple more weeks to get the code up and running (standard/cross-industry collaboration takes calendar time).
I’m sorry that our initial work is not happening fully in the open *yet*, but we’re all pushing for it and it will be, hopefully sooner than later.
The best place to argue this “in the open” is by raising issues in the w3c/webauthn repo, or meetings, which is open.
To me, it has previously felt clunky to use older (and more mature, sure!) toolkits when building a one-day game just for fun.
Thank you to the team members that made this happen.
What im really missing and hoping for is an even more open and extensible community platform. Discussions is a good start, it would love to more innovation there.
On my iPhone indoors I could clearly see both the “workflow animation” and color variations in the examples further down.
Looks like a cool application.
Thank you!