It's all a bit airy-fairy I know, but having come such a long way in a mere thousand years - I feel like the ideas we have of super-intelligent beings may be primitive.
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It's all a bit airy-fairy I know, but having come such a long way in a mere thousand years - I feel like the ideas we have of super-intelligent beings may be primitive.
I'm not sure of examples, hence the question, but I feel like if you remove life as we know it, there is still so much complexity in the universe. I wonder if intelligence can rise out of processes outside of a brain.
Full disclosure: I’ve never been employed or worked in a large team despite programming since I was a kid. I typically do freelancing, but have been working on the same product for 2 years now. Looking to use my skills elsewhere and learn from others in the process. I don’t maintain much of a portfolio, but I do love assignments, so happy to showcase skill by building something.
As for how much, I think $20 for battery, $50 for screen (iirc)
[1] - The mechanism to avoid concentrated power is a drop in for many other things. For example, I believe if societal structures could effectively optimise for ethical behaviour, individuals would be less likely to crave for power lust and greed.
We act like we know, because it's comforting to do so. Naturally we fall into patterns where we can exert control, feel we have a sense of autonomy, and have things occur with predictability.
As an avid supporter of science, I think you're quick to rely upon it. If it holds all the answers, they won't be unfolding in our meagre lifespans. What I consider greater than science, is experience. Whatever you actually experience cannot be explained away, it is the ground truth. Whether you're experiencing illusion, delusion, or confusion - they are themselves experiences and it cannot be denied that you're having them.
You find everything hollow and lacking because you're looking for meaning and purpose over there, not here. The great thing about the 'here' is it's about as solid as anything can be, and you need not seek anything more than it. It's not going anywhere, and you're welcome at any time to turn your mind upon itself. It is here that contentment, acceptance, timelessness and beauty exist. And when one is content, questions such as yours tend not to arise.
Your experience is the landscape which everything arises. Absolutely everything. Sure, there seems to be a thriving physical world beyond the bounds, and independent of, you. Though without the 'you' to experience it, it's meaningless.
You're never going to get the answers you seek. So stop seeking.
Enjoy each moment. Easier said than done right? Minds are akin to rafts on the open sea, being thrust this way and that. Sitting upon, and identifying with a torrent of thoughts. We identify with these thoughts and they carry us to and fro.
When is that last time you noticed a thought arise? For surely they do. And when is the last time you observed a thought arise, and chose not to identify with it? Thoughts are not you, for you can stand aside and watch them appear and dissipate.
Make a point of sitting back and getting comfy in the cinema of your experience. What will your next thought be? Wait and see. There will surely be one.
Did it carry you away? Do it again. You will start to see thoughts arise all of their own, and you can simply watch them. The tendency is to BE the thought, and this need not be.
The space that is left to experience in the absence of thought will ease the doubts and fear that assail your mind. For these too are the realm of thought identification.
In the case of conversation, I feel as though being lost is counter to a equanimous and relaxed conversation. For example, I may disagree with with the other party, and become overbearing. Or I may feel uncomfortable, a mind racing, and unable to relax into a conversation. These I recognise in hindsight, but not in the moment.
Programming may be harder to articulate, perhaps posture is analogous? Maintaining good posture while being lost in programming. Or being mindful of my shortcomings as a programmer while typing.
Though being “lost” in an activity does resonate with me, and appear as a positive. So I wonder if there are different strains of “lostness”. Some helpful, and others not.
A man lost in a moment of road rage is surely not doing right. Nor is one who neglects or doesn’t value the needs of a loved one in the moment.
How do you view these different forms of being lost?
I think the more fundamental reason I enjoy listening to him is his search for truth and his upstanding ethics. He genuinely wants a world where there is less suffering, and I’m glad he’s taking others along for the ride.
Obviously text is the most powerful and intuitive means of programming, but I wonder if it's the best? Perhaps more generally, is language as we know it really the best way to convey meaning?
I've no idea on such topics. My curiosity has just been roused by this ambitious project.
There was a time when we didn’t exist, then suddenly - life.
Should that happen again, I should hope that the experience is peaceful (as much so as possible).
And it is for this reason that we should treat every living (and potentially non living) being with kindness and consideration. A bug, a dog, a plant, a fellow human.
We don’t know what’s next, if anything. But it’s true that we came into being in a world not of our choosing. If that happens again, I hope it isn’t a misery.
Life didn’t have to be this good. The world we inhibit didn’t have to be so ordered. It could have resembled an extensive misery.
We must treat all beings who move in this realm as we would like ourselves to be treated moving through another.
I’m somewhat hopeful that even if something like a “hell” exists, so does this reality. And while it’s not perfect, there is always hope that while existence in one realm may end, we may move to a more tranquil one.
My preference would be that we die and nothing. Like a deep, dreamless sleep. But the fact we have emerged with the gift of experience from seemingly nothing, doesn’t bode well for a continuation of nothingness.
Do you think it's okay to do good to someone against their will?
Assuming the mechanism was there to objectively validate what is good, I'd say yes. People come into existence, and much of their experience is against their will. So what's a little more helplessness, especially in the pursuit of their own wellbeing.
On a bit of a tangent here - is there a brain architecture where a consistently good (and lucid/clear) experience is guaranteed? Is such an experience within to reach of humankind?
By UX of the human brain, I mean the experience of being a human.
Your example of rationality is a great one, let's assume an ideal human being is one who optimises for rationality. Why isn't rationality innate in being human? I'm sure to a degree it is, but I think you'd agree that the world could be a little more rational, and perhaps even you yourself could be (I certainly could be).
To speak further to my experience, there's things I rationally know I should or shouldn't do. But I don't act accordingly always (or often - depending on my mindset).
I'm sure I'm not the only one who finds the endeavour of making rational changes difficult? And rationality is just one aspect of 'human-brain UX'.
Eventually I let go of that, and found life much more peaceful and less strained.
Admittedly of late, it’s creeping back somewhat (old habits I suppose), but nothing like it was.
I’m hoping someone smarter than myself can momentarily stoop down to my level and clear things up.
I wonder, must one strive to understand the mathematics of ethics to make ethical decisions? Am I able to optimise my decisions for universal wellbeing without being able to mathematically reason upon it?
Something I’m equally ill-equipped at is being present - aware of my real-time inclinations, motivations, and subsequent actions. As a result, I often make decisions which oppose ethical optimisation (or my understanding of it)
If I were to choose between the ability to mathematically reason on ethical matters, or to have the awareness to actually make (potentially misguided) ethical decisions, I’d choose the latter every time.
Is that wrong?
I wish I could update my parent comment. Although this interaction speaks for itself I think. Thanks for a great product!
In three instances, I’ve had a long-running chats stop working completely and simply not load. All history/media inaccessible. Just a loading spinner. This is Element on iOS.
I wish it were more dependable, because things like this would excite me much more.