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The last few struck me a few years ago when this was first announced. The first company that rolls these out will have so much power over commerce in general. I can imagine Google offering a service to help optimize those kinds of variables for businesses and consumers alike.

It's funny that your archaic quote undermines your point.

"That number is inflated by adding YouTube users"

They specifically bifurcate the two types of users. There's ~500 million if you count the G+ interactions through youtube and other apps.

Why doesn't the hacker community lionize this guy as much as they do Snowden?

Moto X.

I think almost the opposite relationship can be explored. What is the normal world's relationship to a bunch of people trying so hard to "Think Different"?

It's the standard hamburger style menu found across android. Maybe it would be difficult if it wasn't in every Google android app.

I've been using it for years and I've either never had these problems or they haven't been so bad that I would consider it broken. Isn't a time to home card usually valuable?

Just tuned in to see Leo crying. I guess it was some pretty profound stuff.

I've read all the released documents, I get the impression that most of this was instigated by Jobs. Sure they played along for this purpose, but the threats and escalation started with the Job's emails in 05.

Facebook has been much more flippant with privacy policies and their use of data than Google has ever been. I only see unfavorable comparisons of google to facebook on HN and it really baffles me. It couldn't be farther from the truth.

I didn't mean mad literally. I meant the intent that you mentioned.

Maybe investors are mad about their shares being diluted through these stock deals?

I wonder if Google has plans for a competing VR to the rift.

When you learn the slogan.

It's still important to feel your stomach churn when you hear Zuckerberg talk about his "mission"

I'm not sure how true this is, but I recently watched an anti-google documentary about their book-scanning business and they said sources familiar with Larry Page claim that he had no interest in Google as a business but rather was attempting to achieve advanced AI through Google.

"Zuckerberg explained that he felt that Oculus represented an entirely new post-PC and post-mobile platform."

He's probably right. While Google and others are focusing on half-baked wearables as their key to the future, facebook just bought a huge chunk of the most likely successor.

Let assume that these kinds of investments actually lead to something: http://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2014/03/21/zuckerberg-musk-inves...

Maybe not immediately, but 10, 20, 50 years? Good luck.

It's been like this for a long time. A controversy will feed itself, the actual issues won't as easily be stuck in perpetuity.

Even history is taught like this.

And it's not like Page isn't interested in health: https://plus.google.com/+LarryPage/posts/Lh8SKC6sED1

In the context of this quote: "You’re working because you want to change the world and make it better; if the company you work for is worthy of your time, why not your money as well? We just don’t think about that. I’d like for us to help out more than we are."

His philosophy could make sense.

You can't brag about it on HN.

Why single out Page and Google?

Selling info is a misnomer.

Aren't Google's ad monetization practices fairly transparent? You can see all the data collected in the dashboard, you can see how ads are targeted under the ad settings.

It seems like people are alluding to Google's data usage as some sort of black box where it seems pretty open to me.

Yeah, I guess it makes you sound like a tool, but I'm not sure what unique phrase would work better.

I've never heard anyone say "search for it", but rather "google it".

30 minutes out of a year is less than .1%

Why does everyone ignore the prevalence of free RSS readers when Google reader came along?

The problem is that we're not talking about a safety net anymore, but a solution for a permanent reduction in the workforce. That's something entirely different, more daunting, and perhaps unsolvable.