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pattisapu··on Short Little Difficult Books
Willingness.
pattisapu··on The rise and fall of the English sentence (2017)
Is there something special about loading complexity into the level of the sentence as opposed to individual words?

Agglutination in many Native American languages and compounding in many Indo-European languages come to mind as examples where interesting nesting and complex relational structures can be found at the level of the word.

The article suggests that speakers of English or German can do "mental arithmetic" whereas speakers of Ket have lots of "math facts." I don't know anything about Ket, but German, Sanskrit, and other languages seem to have a lot in the way of mental arithmetic when it comes to making up long compound words, which are not such a static or stable currency as in, say, English.

pattisapu··on The women who coined the expression 'surfing the internet' (2019)
"The Adventures of Captain Internet and CERF Boy” made me think of Vint Cerf. :)
pattisapu··on I want to lose every debate
Good point. People smell condescension, and then check out.

The whole thing cools. They'll say just enough to get to the next topic gracefully. The dispute is patched up with something like "we'll agree to disagree" or something like that, in the interest of polite conversation, rather than square-on debate.

In that scenario one does not receive the full force of an opponent's argument. It never got ventilated. An opponent only brings that energy to a debate between earnest people who see themselves -- not their arguments -- as equals.

pattisapu··on I want to lose every debate
A good analogy. And that stance is so different from "wanting to lose" -- it is "wanting a challenge." To get bested by a worthy opponent. That feeling can only be had after bringing one's best and strongest game to the court.
pattisapu··on I want to lose every debate
Vigorous debate is a good thing.

It's about learning to turn it off afterwards.

Debate at its best is where the issues are at stake -- not the relationship. Getting clear on that is an important communicative and emotional skill.

The problem with "wanting to lose" in this post is how fake and sentimental that attitude can become, against our best intentions.

If both sides can put their cards on the table, that's a more productive conversation, rather than one side shutting up and keeping theirs close to the vest.

Confrontation is not an evil to be avoided. Hurting others is the harm to be avoided. Those are two very different things. Sometimes avoiding confrontation hurts oneself and others the very most.

Furthermore, there is no logical reason why one should default to thinking that only others will bring value to the conversation, and that one's own experience and judgment are not as important to share. By sharing one's thoughts, the other side may hear, learn, or rethink something that could change their lives. To the extent that "wanting to lose" consciously or unconsciously results in one bringing less of a certain energy to a debate, that's an opportunity lost for everyone.

Discernment and diplomacy are the valuable skills here. Again, rather than check out (whether smugly or earnestly), instead, let's make efforts to figure out when, where, why, and with whom to turn on the heat, -- and then turn it off.

Sportsmanship among athletes and collegiality among lawyers are good examples of this in practice.

"And do as adversaries do in law,

Strive mightily, but eat and drink as friends."

--Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew, Act I, sc. 2.

pattisapu··on Astronautilia
You mean like the cult and occult stuff? True, I guess there were some elements. Heaven's Gate, Scientology, and others appear to have adopted a religious outlook on science fiction ideas. I'm not sure that they really adopted conventional forms of fantasy in their literature.
pattisapu··on Astronautilia
As science fiction and fantasy have evolved, they have converged.

We can see plenty of fantasy in works of science fiction in the conventional _forms_ of science fiction -- short stories, novels, TV shows, movies, video games.

It will be interesting to see science fiction in the conventional _forms_ of fantasy -- epics, ballads, poetry, fairy tales, onomastics, runic and incantatory forms of language....

(As an aside, I've heard rumors of published contemporary sci-fi written in classical Sanskrit verse but I can't find any -- is this really a thing?)

pattisapu··on US Supreme Court releases leak investigation report
And there is value in that being the first time the whole Court sees it.

Cards on the table at one definite time.

How much the author had to sweat to get there, to the extent it may matter at all, should show up in the results--a ruling written with a measured, judicial temperament.

pattisapu··on US Supreme Court releases leak investigation report
Sorry if this is a dumb question -- but what would be the motive for a sitting justice to leak a draft?

To test what celebrations or outrage would happen in the streets, maybe?

If they are that concerned with public opinion -- which they shouldn't be, but say they are -- I would think that would incentivize even stronger efforts to maintain confidentiality and discretion.

(Maybe you didn't suggest that it was intentional, but an accident. Even then I might wonder why someone would let their guard down on this case. Maybe there was so much more work done on one particular case, people get physically tired, etc.)

pattisapu··on US Supreme Court releases leak investigation report
Oh of course -- I just meant that I can envision a scenario where a judge is essentially writing out a thought-experiment as he or she is trying to figure out how to rule on a case -- and then that is leaked, etc.

Even if it's a late-stage draft that's leaked, that comes with its own host of problems.

Imagine a world where drafts are trotted out by lawyers seeking to argue their interpretation of an old opinion. "The Court originally was going to hold something like my opponent suggests, but that bit got deleted, your honor!"

That would be another level of the problem of what we might call "arguing the changelog," using pieces of floor debate transcripts in the legislative history of a statute.

Justice Scalia analogized that to "entering a crowded room at a cocktail party, and looking over the heads of the guests for your friends."

And that's a concern on top of the potential for a chilling effect on the judiciary.

pattisapu··on US Supreme Court releases leak investigation report
When I clerked for a judge (not on the Supreme Court), she sometimes asked me to write two draft opinions -- one where one side wins -- and another where the other side wins -- and she used those materials in drafting her ultimate opinion.

There are so many different things going on in how judges write. I hope that they can get some _sense_ of security again so that they feel the freedom to be as open-minded as possible in figuring out the cases before them.

pattisapu··on The linguistics of swearing explain why we substitute darn for damn
Slurs seem to share some of this violence in expression.

In English, at least, many unspeakable words used to describe Blacks, Asians, Jews, gay men, lesbian women, and others seem to have some of these "k" (or "g" (voiced)) features, harsh consonant endings, etc.

I wonder if it is like this in other languages too.

pattisapu··on The Twitter whistleblower story is worse than you think
Makes sense. Reallocate the cost to the cheapest cost avoider.
pattisapu··on Knowledge Representation in Sanskrit and Artificial Intelligence
Sanskritist and linguist here. Many discussions of Sanskrit outside the world of linguistics devolve into politics ... the discoveries of the Indians are what they are, just like the discoveries of the Greeks are what they are ... "but what about caste oppression" reminds me a bit of the "math is racist" wackos in the US lately.
pattisapu··on ‘When We Cease to Understand the World’
“Could a sufficient concentration of human will — millions of people exploited for a single end with their minds compressed into the same psychic space — unleash something comparable to the singularity?"

Calls to mind the Warhammer 40K idea of The Warp:

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Warp

pattisapu··on Speaking Latin
Just two generations ago, teaching Latin by "the direct method" was not uncommon in the West:

http://www.arlt.co.uk/method.html

Greek composition courses, too.

pattisapu··on Facebook knows Instagram is toxic for teen girls, company documents show
Are there any teenage girls here on HN who could comment from personal experience?
pattisapu··on I interviewed Brian J. Fox, the creator of Bash
"Check out this unusual thing that I was able to do" is the emphasis rather than "Here is an interview with this person of interest."
pattisapu··on Commonly used idioms in the tech industry
At the Supreme Court a lawyer once said something was "entirely orthogonal" to the main issue.

Chief Justice Roberts: “I’m sorry. Entirely what?”

“Orthogonal,” the lawyer replied. “Right angle. Unrelated. Irrelevant.”

Justice Scalia: “What was that adjective? I liked that."

“I think we should use that in the opinion,” Scalia later added.

“Or the dissent,” said Roberts.

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/supreme_court_word_o...

pattisapu··on American parents are sending their kids to 'Russian math' (2017)
Reminds me of stories I used to see about Japanese families sending their kids to "Indian" schools:

https://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/02/business/worldbusiness/02...

pattisapu··on Supine Computing (2019)
A worse but simpler solution:

Cram the keyboard end of a laptop between the headboard of a bed and the wall, rotate the display 180º in the OS settings, and plug in an external keyboard and mouse. Lie down in bed and compute.

Works okay except that strain is then offloaded either to your wrists if you have a regular keyboard (not like the OP has), or legs if you arch them underneath the keyboard.

pattisapu··on Try APL
This post is almost Pynchonesque! Great story and thanks for sharing!
pattisapu··on 3000-pound triceratops skull excavated in South Dakota (2020)
"Although the coronavirus pandemic derailed plans and typical course credit could not be offered, students signed up for the excursion anyway."

Kudos to these volunteers!

pattisapu··on Against Alcohol
Thanks for these resources.
pattisapu··on Biggest void in space is 1B light years across (2007)
Star Trek Voyager had an episode where the crew got lost in a void 2,500 light years across . . . pretty interesting.

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Void_(region)

pattisapu··on Cambridge Bitcoin Electricity Consumption Index
Wait a minute . . .
pattisapu··on How to Be Clear
"I quite agree with you," said the Duchess; "and the moral of that is -- `Be what you would seem to be' -- or, if you'd like it put more simply -- `Never imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been would have appeared to them to be otherwise.'" -- Lewis Carrol, "Alice in Wonderland"
pattisapu··on US government accuses TikTok of being a mouthpiece for the Communist Party
The memorandum says "its founder and CEO has publicly affirmed that ByteDance is a mouthpiece for the CCP in that it is committed to promoting the CCP’s agenda and messaging."
pattisapu··on You advocate a ________ approach to calendar reform (2013)
. . . anno mundi . . . ante meridiem . . . :P
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