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The obvious answer is "I voted for trump". But then of course, why?
Lots of things used to be uncontroversial. Get with the times.
Have you really never worked on a project where the golden boy was the face of everything and everyone else was ignored?
People who move from California to Seattle complain constantly about how horrible the weather is, for example.
It's not at all. We can still criticize the US government for their actions.
You actually couldn't do that in China.
Especially int he context of talking to someone who lives with tyranny and doesn't really care.
> but projection of societal norms is kinda silly.
It's not when you are talking about basic human rights. China is wrong about this.
Or they have adopted a realistic view of history. The US has done loads of shitty things.
They have never had stalin like purges or a hitler like dictator.
An educated person, old or young, might look at Iran and be less likely to think "horrible regime hell bent on the destruction of Israel and the west" and more likely to think "huh, we probably shouldn't have fucked with their government decades ago".
Also that whole thing about voting being worth less for huge chunks of the country. Oh, and getting constantly screwed over by previous generations.
Being cynical doesn't make you naive.
Oh look, more ageism on hacker news.
Actually PG said the opposite. I used to have the comment saved, but lost it in a format.
Anyway, people also downvote because they are sick of talking about this.
Oh but citations. Good for you, that's a good bit of research. Sure the facts seem cherry picked and don't necessarily support your conclusions. You also presented them in an entirely tone deaf manner, you seem to imply a number of negative things, you perpetuated stereotypes, and you didn't explore any possible alternative explanations, but you definitely cited some research papers. B+ for effort, F for execution.
F as in fired with cause.
But say I'm doing a project in Java and they are about equal, I keep giving Al the meaty work then use it justify a promotion, which I can't justify for Marcy. It's not that she's that much worse, I just never gave her the chance to prove it (blah blah peter principle, perform at next level, etc...). That just might be a bit sexist.
You aren't allowed to reference social science studies because their aren't enough conservatives to make those fields "fair".
women need to have children earlier.
I don't see 70 year old men eagerly having kids all that often. Most people want to live to see their grandchildren.
> I'm generalising, obviously, so "on average" everywhere.
"I have black friends"
> As an aside I feel much less comfortable arguing this point after checking out your personal site and seeing that you write Debian packages. I really enjoy Debian, especially the reproducible builds work that's going on over there. I respect your opinions on this matter.
Are you trying to mkae some sort of point?
But they do research that should be repeatable and thus it doesn't matter.
Unless you think they have implicit bias.
Yup, sounds completely reasonable.
Hey, how come so many more women become doctors now? High stress job, takes a long time, I don't think it's any more "attractive" then being a nurse.
I'm gonna go ahead and say that this line of thinking is sexist. I'm not trying to attack you I just think it needs to be said because I think it's actively harmful. It ignores any other reasons behind the gap, and it's a terrible line of thinking for anyone who manages women. "I don't know if I should give her this role, women aren't really suited for leadership".
I'm sorry, I thought we based policy on what we thought was right and not what totalitarian regimes in other countries do.
Maybe try comparing to Canada or other comparable democracies instead.
Doesn't explain the "why" though.
Why?
> if people decide to stay in the US they should try to assimilate
oh I see.
Apparently hte people who come to the US for school and try to live and work here right alongside you and me (white guy) aren't trying hard enough to assimilate.
> BTW, I'm an Indian citizen on H1B and I'm saying this
So? You're criticizing chinese people pretty explicitly. Don't try to hide behind your race.
per year. There are many many more than that on H-1B. Plus you have OPT and L1.
The bigger issue is being on an H-1B kind of sucks. If you get fired you're screwed. It's hard to maximize value because switching employers is a pain. You have people who accuse you constantly of being a low paid scrub stealing american jobs. You have the risk that the US government might pull the rug out from under you somehow.
Chinese and Indian people have to put up with this for years. Decades in the case of Indians.
> US is incredibly unwelcoming to hard-working immigrants and provides no reliable path to citizenship or permanent residency besides fraudulent marriage.
From India and China (and a couple other places, to a lesser degree). If you were born in another country and get an H-1B (which is a pretty terrible system) you can get a green card in a couple years.
"I'm just asking questions"
It does in the US. Absolutely does.
Why is it sad? They get to go back home instead of on the other side of the planet from the place they grew up, and they don't have to give up nearly as much to do it.
Good for them.
> My China-born colleagues seem to in general be more conservative, and Silicon Valley has become violently intolerant of anyone that holds an opinion different than the predominant view
Had to get that "oppressed conservatives" narrative in.
I keep asking what views people are so intolerant of. Tend not to get real answers.
You believe in ageism?
CBS should fire that guy.