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knzhou

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I'm a physics graduate student. You can also find me on:

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Personal website: https://knzhou.github.io

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knzhou··on Three authors retract study on hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine
The value is that even given this, they're much more reliable than preprints, and much much more reliable than sensational Twitter threads or public forums. They manage to filter out a tremendous amount of crap, but a sufficiently crafty and dishonest author can still sometimes slip past -- as is possible in any system.
knzhou··on Three authors retract study on hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine
You do realize that the whole reason we're discussing this retraction is because the scientific community did discuss its validity?

So far I've seen a lot of self-correction done by the scientific and medical communities themselves. There hasn't been a single example of a nontrivial story broken by a guy delivering spittle-flecked rants on Youtube. The ranters, however, are very good at taking credit for what actual scientists did.

knzhou··on Anders Tegnell defends Sweden's virus approach
> I think other countries should take a page out of Tegnell's book and instead of trying to exorcise dissent and label opponents, admit to uncertainties in their policies.

Sadly, the discourse affects the results. When everybody believes a lockdown will work, it does. When about half the population isn't sure about it, it just wastes money.

It would be great to have some countries go all-in in one strategy and others all-in in another, and compare results later -- but when people talk, you end up with lots of countries effectively doing something in the middle, without the advantages of either extreme but essentially all of the costs.

knzhou··on A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical journals may be unraveling
Indeed, but that is the problem that preprints can solve. (As in, they don't solve the problem of telling what is correct, because that's just inherently hard, but they solve the problem of giving access so people can learn to tell.)
knzhou··on A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical journals may be unraveling
But this isn't a case of a journal acting like a "mafia". This is a case where something bad slipped past peer review, because of the inherent limitations of peer review. The reason is that expert time and attention is intrinsically scarce (if you double the number of experts, you double the number of papers produced, and hence double the amount of time that must be spent on peer review), and really properly vetting a paper takes a massive amount of time. This wouldn't be changed by system reform.

In my opinion, the best option for everybody who's serious about this is to read a lot of papers, until you become "well-calibrated", i.e. when you have a good handle on the overall chances a preprint is true, vs. a Twitter thread, vs. a paper in a top-tier journal. This has to be learned from experience. Reform doesn't change the fact that you need to do this -- it just adds yet another venue, either more or less reliable than the previous ones, that you also need to become calibrated on.

knzhou··on In Mathematics, It Often Takes a Good Map to Find Answers
Well, I recommend doing a concrete, nontrivial derivation from start to finish just to see how this approach scales. As a basic example that is typically covered in about half a page in books, try doing a full derivation of the wave equation for a wave on a string. I would bet that once you set up the 1000 nodes required to do this, you'll be completely exhausted, and moreover will have gotten no new insight! If you're not tired yet, try deriving the equation describing waves on a stiff rod -- it'll take at least 1500 nodes, most of which will be exactly the same as the ones for the wave equation.

Furthermore, this excessive mathematical structure hides the physical assumptions that really drive the validity of these equations. A real string doesn't actually obey the wave equation perfectly. The reason has to do with physical aspects of the string itself, not minutiae in the mathematical derivation of the wave equation. I can't think of an example where progress in physics was stalled because somebody tried to divide both sides of an equation by T and failed...

knzhou··on A mysterious company’s Covid-19 papers in top medical journals may be unraveling
Whenever this kind of thing happens, you get a lot of people advocating for the abolition of peer review and its replacement with Twitter or something. I simply don't understand that.

Normal peer review means "we showed our work to about 2 people who know what they're talking about and they thought it was okay."

Preprints mean "nobody who knows what they're talking about has looked at this carefully yet, but we think it's okay."

Viral Twitter threads mean "here's my opinion, which hasn't been shown to anybody who actually knows what they're talking about, but which has been selected for maximum public response."

Of course, in all cases, real credibility only comes once a paper has been looked over by hundreds of people who know what they're talking about. Yes, showing something to only 2 experts (who themselves are very busy, and are powerless to directly verify many of the paper's claims) is not a perfect initial quality cut -- but no cut at all is worse.

If you really believe in the power of Twitter, take a long, hard look at the sensational, outrageous tweets you've liked. Go look at a sample of 100 old threads and see how many actually held up. The accuracy rate will not even be comparable to the Lancet's.

knzhou··on In Mathematics, It Often Takes a Good Map to Find Answers
It seems to me that your map is far too detailed to use practically. You spell out every algebraic step, including stuff as simple as "divide both sides by T", so that deriving f = 1/T from T = 1/f takes about 10 nodes. This is like building a model train to a larger scale than an actual train -- what is the use?

Education research tells us that what you actually want to do is the exact opposite: chunk as much as possible. You should learn algebra separately, and then use your preexisting knowledge of algebra to group f = 1/T and T = 1/f into one conceptual node. If you need 10 nodes every time something that basic is done, then your map will contain a vast amount of redundancy and be too large to use to get anywhere...

knzhou··on Stop Taking Regular Notes; Use a Zettelkasten Instead
I've taken 3000 pages of notes in a linear, bullet-point fashion, and I also keep up with education research.

As far as I can tell, both in studies and in personal experience, the fiddly details of your note-taking schemes don't matter. The only thing that matters is attempting to integrate the information into a cohesive whole, which takes intentional thought.

With linear notes, there's a failure mode where links that should be made aren't; you can even walk around believing outright contradictions without noticing. But with a web, there's an equally bad failure mode where your knowledge gets diffuse and unstructured (instead of "X causes Y if Z", you get "X, Y, and Z are related. But... was Z the thing that caused X? Wait, but then what was Y for?").

Both of these reflect a failure to aggregate and chunk the information into hard tools, but no productivity system can magically fix that; it always takes time.

knzhou··on What is emergence?
When I was a kid, I was fascinated by the word "emergence". In pop science, it was spoken in reverent tones. Never mind that they never gave a definition of it that didn't sound trivial -- the word was dripping with meaning and the promise of hidden wisdom.

I went to college and studied physics. I learned how the behavior of many atoms leads to thermodynamics and the properties of materials. I learned how elementary quantum mechanics leads to atomic physics and chemistry. I learned how the strong force gives rise to nuclei. I learned how the Standard Model produces everything on this list. I learned how, at each layer, the correspondence was fiendishly subtle, but the work of thousands of physicists over decades had built the bridges.

At the end of it, I was still dissatisfied, because I hadn't learned what emergence was. I'd see crackpots presenting their personal theories of everything, declaring that they knew what no physicist ever could, because their model had emergence. They knew about it, and we didn't. But I still didn't know what it was.

Then I dug deeper and it became obvious. Emergence is a beautiful idea that has always been present, in some form or another, in every field of science. It is so well-developed in some fields, such as particle physics, that it has become a suite of quantitative methods with incredible accuracy. I had been learning it the entire time, and now use it every day without a second thought. Meanwhile, "emergence" is a brand name. It's a specific word passed down over generations of pop science used to convey mystique. It's a tool some charlatans use to pretend they know more than they do.

No offense meant to the article, but I often hear people say they're most excited about some substanceless theory because it "has emergence", and this is part of why.

knzhou··on A Monday Is a Tuesday Is a Sunday as Covid-19 Disrupts Internal Clocks
I've just decided that my weekend days are Wednesday and Saturday -- on Wednesdays in particular I get to waste as much time on HN as I want! You don't need to work 5 consecutive days every week, now you can do what works for you.
knzhou··on YouTube actively deletes anti CCP comments
> There are enough Chinese pro-nationalists using YouTube

And they aren’t any more nationalistic than Americans. Reporting this slogan is the equivalent of, say, an American reporting “Drumpf is Hitler” or “Hussein Obama”. These are all dumb slogans which are spammed just to get a political reaction. Different people get offended about different things, that’s just something you have to deal with in a big community.

knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
That’s true, but it wasn’t when I posted my comment. It looks like comments just naturally get more reasonable over time... similarly, about half my comments get to negative score instantly, but most then slowly climb back up to positive over the next 24 hours.
knzhou··on YouTube actively deletes anti CCP comments
I’m all ready to bring out the pitchforks, guys, but I’m confused. Didn’t we all agree literally yesterday that Facebook not doing enough to reduce division was a moral catastrophe? Isn’t deleting what hundreds of millions of people see as a foreign propaganda slogan a textbook example of reducing division? Is the rule that we should delete only what you in particular find divisive?
knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
> But personally, I think that calls into question whether Facebook or anything like them should even exist.

The fundamental problem with Facebook is that it serves the people, and as a rule, we are too reactive, too judgmental, too ignorant, too emotional, too irrational, and too hateful. If you want to find something bad on Facebook, you will succeed, because everybody is there, and this is just how we are. Turn back the clock and you'll find ethnic hatred spread through private Whatsapp messages, bullying on Myspace, ignorance in chain email, disingenuous appeals to emotion in yellow journalism, and hysteria in a mob whipping itself into a lynching frenzy in a literal public square. The platforms have changed hundreds of times, the people have not.

What amazes me is that critics of social media don't see this -- despite their vaunted liberal arts degrees, they act as if Zuckerberg invented human flaws in 2004, and pretend that he has the power to get rid of them with a technological solution. Destroy Facebook tomorrow, and the people will just move somewhere else. The exact same problems will reappear, because the people are the same.

knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
This is also why I'm never particularly concerned about somebody popular being kicked off a platform. The ability to quickly go from being unknown to having millions of views, distributed using somebody else's servers, paid for by somebody else's money, is unprecedented in human history. If Youtube and Facebook started banning people en masse, the degree of free speech in our society would at worst regress to about what it was in early 2000s, hardly a dystopia.
knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
But that’s not how it actually works. For example, it’s agreed among journalists covering social media that Facebook’s greatest crime is that it “created a genocide in Myanmar”, as you can read in an ocean of longform articles. What they mean is that people shared hateful messages privately via Messenger and Whatsapp, two services that use a completely deterministic algorithm (“show all incoming messages by recent”).

The only practical way to stop this is to employ an army of censors to read private conversations and delete the ones deemed bad. But of course this is also horrible and dystopian. So, as always, it’s trivial to write a scathing critique of Facebook no matter what they do.

The problem is that hate doesn’t need an algorithm to amplify it; it can just amplify itself, as it has throughout all of human history. The problem isn’t the algorithm, it’s the people. And you can’t just “fix” people.

knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
True, but I would have expected at least a little visible disagreement. You never see anybody saying “wait a second, I think making the filter bubble effect a bit worse is actually worth it!” Each individual submission’s comments is just full throated, unanimous condemnation —- even when adjacent comments are directly contradictory. They just don’t engage with the possibility that deciding what to do might actually be hard.
knzhou··on Facebook executives shut down efforts to make the site less divisive
The degree to which “damned if you do, damned if you don’t” is in effect here is remarkable. If Facebook literally removes anything, then HN is outraged because it’s censorship, paternalism, all that. But if Facebook does not adopt an actively paternalistic attitude where it shows people content that they deem is “good for them”, then that’s outrageous too. Both complaints predictably rocket to the top of HN.

Which is it, guys? How can you simultaneously be outraged that Facebook is imposing any restrictions on speech at all, and horrified that it isn’t actively molding user behavior on a massive scale?

There’s an amusing comment from a Facebook employee downthread asking: if division is caused by showing people opposing political opinions, should we try to stop that to reduce division, or should we do nothing, to avoid forming filter bubbles? Predictably, every single reply condemns him as evil for not realizing one of the options is obviously right, but they’re split exactly 50/50 on what that right course of action is.

knzhou··on Electrons May Well Be Conscious
Note that IIT has been criticized [0] for being extremely gameable: it is trivial to build simple circuits that do absolutely nothing, but have more "consciousness" than all humans who have ever lived.

0: https://www.scottaaronson.com/blog/?p=1799

knzhou··on Electrons May Well Be Conscious
> Saying things like "Consciousness is emergent" or "Consciousness is just a side effect of information processing" seems to miss the point.

It sounds suspect to me too, but the reason the idea is appealing is that it's worked fantastically for hundreds of similar phenomena. To vastly oversimplify thousands of years of philosophy, for most of human history the default position has been that every idea had to be reified into some metaphysical essence.

What is the essence that makes a dog a dog? That makes bread nourishing but rocks not? That makes rocks solid? That makes fire hot? That makes falling objects seek Earth? Again and again, we've found simple physical explanations for these puzzles, that once were regarded as just as inexplicable as consciousness. Indeed, consciousness is now the last essence that survives, and that's why some bet it'll go the same way as all the rest. "But this one is different", indeed, and every single time so far that argument has been wrong.

knzhou··on Doctors are tweeting about coronavirus to make facts go viral
Sure, but that’s not what he did. He literally saw the word “fact” and decided he didn’t like what was going to come next. That’s downright medieval.
knzhou··on So much of academia is about connections and reputation laundering
I know physics and I know this description is wrong. If there’s a bullshitter here, it’s you.
knzhou··on Doctors are tweeting about coronavirus to make facts go viral
> my initial gut reaction to seeing any news headline with the word "Fact" in it has become to assume it has a political angle.

That's not a problem with the headline, it's a problem with your state of mind. There are actual facts at play here, and real experts with good intentions.

If you think the whole world is partisan politics and facts don't matter, good for you, but please don't pollute the information pool for the rest of us.

knzhou··on Evidence for Anyons, a Third Kingdom of Particles
Okay, now I see what you mean. They were going in the right direction, but they did mess up. Everywhere they talk about moving a particle in a loop around the other, they really should have talked about moving two particles to exchange them. An exchange is of course topologically distinct from doing nothing. A loop is two exchanges in a row -- which is, as you say, topologically trivial in 3D (so the loop phase must be 1, and the exchange phase is +1 or -1, allowing for bosons and fermions).
knzhou··on Applying to PhD Programs in Computer Science (2014) [pdf]
I laughed at PhD comics back in undergrad, but now as a PhD student it feels wrong to read. A lot like Lego Grad Student.
knzhou··on 92 of top 500 subreddits controlled by same 5 people
But Marginal Revolution is well known for having the worst comments on the internet. Literally nothing but edgy one-sentence snark. It’s just a step above caveman grunts.
knzhou··on A non-moral dilemma about cheating, but it brings up some points (2019)
I'm a graduate student. Yes, I know about all of this -- I'm holding out hope to be one of the 0.001%. ;-) They do exist!
knzhou··on Evidence for Anyons, a Third Kingdom of Particles
That's fine because basically everything's a resonance. The only particles that aren't technically resonances are those that have infinite lifetime, i.e. just the proton, electron, and photon.
knzhou··on A non-moral dilemma about cheating, but it brings up some points (2019)
Definitely. That's another type of course that I hope to avoid having to teach. The ideal course has only students that are relaxed, engaged, well-prepared, and who actually want to be there.
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