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See thread here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27584743
I'm actually a BNB holder but the arguments here are silly.
@dang Is this happening?
Do you have a source for this?
I definitely think there is a market for figuring this out and mashing it up on job pages with a browser extension.
Goalposts? Are we in a formal debate now?
Anyway, Brendan Eich is a person. And it doesn't matter how many employees object to him if they are in the wrong.
> I like the idea of due process
I'm not speaking from a legal standpoint. Are you willing to be terminated in a capricious way?
> You mean against their employment interest. He did help fund opposition to their personal interests.
No, I'm talking about the question of whether he discriminated against LGBT folks at Mozilla. He clearly didn't so your point is moot.
> Funny thing is, Eich is neither jobless nor homeless, and people still hear about him. Wikipedia summarizes his few on masks, for example, and his work on Brave regularly appears on HN.
Yes, many commenters on HN are unhappy he has any kind of job. That is my point. That they haven't been successful at his current gig isn't a cause for celebration, or in your case, indifference. But I actually think you might prefer him to not have a job.
> Multiple employees, and volunteers. And at least one board member.
What are you trying to prove? I don't get it.
> Certainly personal feelings are important. People are turned down all the time for a position because of "bad culture fit" or "rubs me wrong" or any number of personal reasons.
Yeah and usually that comes down to ageism and sexism.
> The fact and reality is that we are all emotional creatures. You cannot separate them.
We can use logic. There is hope.
It's fine to criticize people. Do you believe that someone should never be able to hold a job again because they donated money to a politician that an employee finds unsavory?
> The argument was that LGBT people and their fellow travelers working for and supporting Mozilla would likely not want to continue if the head of the organization supported anti-LGBT laws. As such, that would diminish his leadership effectiveness.
There is no proof he acted against the interests of LGBT employees at Mozilla. I like the idea of due process and if you can't come up with something that actually hurts employees then I don't find it to be a substantial argument. There are millions of people that don't support LGBT laws. We can't force them all to be jobless homeless. That's totalitarian.
What I get from your post is that an employees personal feelings are more important than facts and reality. Employees can always go somewhere else instead of launching campaigns to have someone fired.
Bezos was chatting with MBS on WhatsApp before MBS allegedly hacked him. It seems more likely he wasn't hacked by MBS and the culprit was his girlfriend's brother. Maybe Jeff and MBS are due to mend their friendship?
Lots of people tried to cancel Brendan Eich because of something unrelated to the his professional career. There are still comments on HN that try to cancel him from time to time.