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> not mathematically
Agreed. I don't think the GP was asking a mathematical question, so "relevant" meant "to explain why MTM accounting is not the only way".
I understand NPV. I'd edit my post to put "$100m equivalent [NPV] today" to makes it clearer what was meant by "equivalent", but it's too late, and that's precisely what I nodded to with "equivalent" -- no need for jargon to get the sense across.
> These considerations are precisely what marking to market captures.
Of course. And they are -- in theory -- exactly what GP seemed to be asking about. Valuing an instrument at its NPV (NOT MTM) is perfectly reasonable...as a starting point. GP was questioning that. As everyone has pointed out, and anyone who's bootstrapped a yield curve or traded bonds (I have) knows, there are a ton of nuance and caveats to this, but the GP was not dealing with those and they are not relevant to GP's primary point/question.
> > > What does "desert" mean here
> A deserving [...] merit
Thanks. As a native speaker aware of "desert"'s multiple meanings and "just deserts", I think "merit", "deservedness", "appropriateness" would have been much clearer choices here. Perhaps the jarring note alone (of "desert" in this context) should have clued me in that an unusual usage was in play. Thanks again for the clarification.
Because at maturity, the bank gets back its money. So it is perfectly valid to say "in ten years, this $100m bond is worth $100m...and I intend to hold it for ten years, so it's worth $100m [equivalent] today". The "I intend to hold it" is the relevant part of the valuation, though.
> But… they aren’t real yet? [...] So I don’t understand this point.
If people withdraw their deposits, the bank will have to deliver the money somehow...by selling the assets that have lost money. So the point is that although, if nobody withdraws, the losses are survivable, if enough people withdraw, the losses are not survivable. As soon as depositors realise this situation, they will withdraw their money. So that's the problem.
Just wondering about this "desert" word, in context:
> I am very frustrated by political arguments about desert, which start with an enemies list and celebrate when the enemies suffer misfortune for their sins like using the banking system.
Anyone know what "desert" refers to?
You chose that bank and you chose to deposit more than $250,000. Are you saying the limit should be higher?
More than `powertop --auto-tune`?
He's a villain because he's trying to replace the hereditary caste by violence, and by consuming them. The tension is there outside of him -- and Mr. Incredible is a bit of an arse to Billy at first -- but it's his means, not his ends, that are the problem.
This is exactly why many of those workers go on to start their own businesses, to redirect those benefits to themselves.
> And when this we rightly know
> Thro the World we safely go
> Joy & Woe are woven fine
> A Clothing for the soul divine
> Under every grief & pine
> Runs a joy with silken twine
Blake
Do you have a link? It's not obvious which treatment you mean (have done a simple search).