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I really don’t know what a full complement of good tools mean! your team is very large your team is very cheap You spend an awful lot on Ai tooling!
We spend about £50 - £200 a head per month on AI tooling.
Assuming everyone was at the top of of that scale (most aren’t) it’s like ai for 50 employees = cost of 1 employee.
Our monetisation plan is simple. We plan to sell what we are calling "market vertical" applications on top of our core platform.
The app in the app store which is great for small teams and pilots.
When you move to large scale deployments for a particular use case e.g. tracking inventory across 10,000's of stores the software needs to look very different. You need reporting, alerts, business rules, access control levels e.t.c Here we plan on selling labels as close to cost as we can and monetise the Enterprise software on a subscription basis.
It's not designed as a product for B2C though really. There is no buzzer for the last 10 meter discovery. If that's not an issue then by all means. But we are fully focussed on the B2B use case.
To us this is what Manufacturing 4.0 is all about, simplifying a product to make something cheaper and better than standard supply chains can.
> Coming very soon, should be in pre-prod before Christmas
What happens when batteries start running out? Warning at certain battery life?
> Not an imminent problem but we do currently get back data on battery life and well before batteries start to fade this will be there.
Do you have a web version and/or API for this?
> There are more enterprise specific features coming including web interfaces. This is being tracked by customer demand. API is not currently on the roadmap.
Can I map out my warehouse on the got-it app and label stuff so I know where each slab is in context to the warehouse?
> We have pilots doing this and it's coming in a more integrated way Q1 next year.
I'd really like to talk to you in a bit more detail about your use case and how we can support you. My email is david@got-it.com
> Absolutely, hot off the press: https://imgur.com/a/R2vUkVO definitely not losing my wine!
What happens after a year, when the battery dies? Do I have to peel this off all my tools?
> At the moment - yes - although we'll let you know before the label dies. We have an R&D roadmap that will steadily increase battery life but for now we're at a year.
Proximity to employee I understand, but how do you get absolute position? Employee phone's GPS?
> Yes, phone GPS. Indoors you can place labels as positioning labels to provide anchor points, this is mostly targeted at larger deployments.
Have you considered some kind of flexible solar cell? Even indoor fluorescent would probably power the few uW this would sip, quasi-indefinitely.
> I'm going to quietly avoid this questions. But would welcome you to follow our twitter @realGot_it for announcements.
I guess we haven't been very vocal about what we're doing, we wanted to have something that worked and was tested before shouting about it.
> We have a very small power source inside our labels - this gives us a range of 20m+.
> Williot don't have a battery and I imagine instead reflect signals. Having previously worked in the RF energy harvesting space I would imagine their range is at best 3ft.
And so while their tech is extremely cool (provided it works, once burnt twice shy as they say) it's a different use case.
- We think the product works better as a solution in the B2B space.
- At the moment we only really have the resources to focus on one product.
At some point through I'd really like for us to have a B2C offering but realistically it won't be for a while - sorry!
"there doesn't seem to be (and should be) some sort of proximity tech based on roundtrip time -- make it beep rapidly as roundtrip time gets shorter (waiting for massive comments about why this doesn't necessarily indicate proximity)"
To be fair to Tile, this is a limitation of BLE and the hardware on phones. Measuring round trip time would require hardware support on the phone and probably a much more expensive tracker. Instead what is available is RSSI or received signal strength indicator. It's an ok measurement but suffers from:
- Multi path, signals being reflected and arriving from different directions
- Antenna that aren't perfectly omni directional
- Signal absorption e.g. large bodies of water (usually people) not being great at letting signals go through them.
That said the new BLE 5.1 standard ratified at the beginning of this year provides angle of arrival and or angle or departure for bluetooth signals so you can tell which direction a bluetooth signal is coming from. We're eagerly waiting to find out if it will be supported on smartphones as it's an optional part of the specification and requires additional hardware. Honestly though it's a long shot - getting one antenna working well on a smartphone is difficult. Getting 4 (which 5.1 A0A requires) may end up being too difficult / not worth it for smartphone manufacturers.
To some extent I'd agree with you and eventually I'd love for this to become a consumer product. Here are some of the reasons we haven't taken that approach though.
- We have relatively limited resource. We would have to be choosing between features targeted at consumers and features targeted at factories tracking 1000's of tools.
- We currently can track things to within about 10m. That's about the size of a house. In a factory 400m by 350m on the other hand it's a massive help - people actually spend hours looking for things. Products like Tile solve that problem with a buzzer - our form factor and price point make that very difficult. Sounds also don't work in a noisy factory environment - you usually can't hear the phone in your pocket.
The question for us would be around support, SLA's e.t.c our capacity as a team and what we would have to drop in order to be able to do that.