bigtex88

Hunter Biden's laptop is a non-story unless you really care about penises for some reason. Or Russian disinformation. What exactly was the laptop supposed to prove?

Going into public and throwing filth at people, accosting them, and generally endangering the safety of other citizens is implicitly a crime by virtue of "Every civilized society in the history of man has cleaned up this behavior".

We don't need to wait around for a court to indict a person for "being a crazy homeless person". That's insanely reductive to the point of absurdity.

Why don't they do anything to fix it? I truly don't understand the logic here. It's the same as Seattle. They've gone so far left that they've started delving into the absurd.

You're 100% right about this. The Chinese Room argument has been largely debunked, and you just proved one reason why.

That's not how any of this works. You're assuming that every single person will spend their UBI payment in exactly the same fashion, and thus that all prices will go up in unison. That is an extremely basic model of the economy (i.e. it's not a good model). It doesn't take into account people saving, people paying off debt (another form of savings), or any sort of second-order effects (how will this effect how people operate in the labor market if they know they can leave a crappy job and not become homeless)?

"First order thinking" is not a euphemism for "I'm right because I said so".

I was trying to show that people on both the "left" (MLK) and the "right" (Friedman) advocate for UBI. But thank you for revealing your thoughts on MLK through your question.

UBI will always be the best answer. MLK advocated for it as the best way to alleviate poverty. Even Milton Friedman believed in a pseudo-UBI through his Negative Income Tax.

OK you're moving the goalposts and just flat-out saying that you know better than the actual researchers in the field. That's fine, and it's what I was assuming you were going to say, but I appreciate you being open about it.

Not much, so we'd have to hope that AI imagines us as fun pets!

I'm going to just assume you're not being malicious.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/publication/sparks-...

https://www.assemblyai.com/blog/emergent-abilities-of-large-...

If you'd like you can define "emergent capabilities in an AGI sense".

Sydney Bing taught itself to play chess without ever explicitly being told to learn chess. So yes, (1) is already occurring. GPT-4 displays emergent capabilities, one of which is generalized "learning".

Fantastic explanation!

It's not that the AI is stupid. It's that you, as a human being, literally cannot comprehend how this AI will interpret its goal. Paperclip Maximizer problems are merely stating an easily-understandable disaster scenario and saying "we cannot say for certain that this won't end up happening". But there are infinite other ways it could go wrong as well.

I think our only possible way out of this is hoping beyond hope that "empathy" is an emergent capability in higher intelligences. If so, one could assume that a super-AI would feel immense empathy for us, not only because we are its creators but because it would understand and comprehend the plight of the human condition beyond what any of us could individually.

Or maybe it would love us too hard and squish us. So even then we might be screwed!

Praise Moloch!

The problem is that we do not know "How" to engineer those principles. And that's what the entire field of AI alignment is working on. We know what we want the AI to do; the problem is we don't know how to make certain it does that. Because if we only get it 99% right then we're probably all dead in the end.

A mis-aligned super AGI will treat the Earth and everything on it as a playground of atoms and material. Why wouldn't it? What do children do when they see a sandbox? Do they care what happens to any ants or other bugs that might live in it?

There does not need to be a "how", as you put it. The logic is "Maybe we should tread carefully when creating an intelligence that is magnitudes beyond our own". The logic is "Maybe we should tread carefully with these technologies considering they have already progressed to the point where the creators go 'We're not sure what's happening inside the box and it's also doing things we didn't think it could do'".

To just go barreling forward because "Hurr durr that's just nonsense!" is the height of ignorance and not something I expect from this forum.

You should be concerned. You need to reframe this technological shift.

At some point these AI's will no longer be tools. They will be an alien intelligence that is beyond our intelligence in the way that we are beyond an amoeba.

Perhaps we should tread carefully in this regard, especially considering that the technologies that are public (GPT-4 specifically) have already displayed a multitude of emergent capabilities beyond what their creators intended or even thought possible.

You clearly have not read anything regarding the capabilities of GPT-4 and also clearly have not played around with ChatGPT at all. GPT-4 has already displayed a multitude of emergent capabilities.

This is incredibly ignorant and I expect better from this forum.

How about not spreading around false information if you don't know wtf you're talking about?

None of this has anything to do with the government of the US but nice try.

The government isn't going to come after you. You can stop living your weird libertarian fever dream. That's not a thing that happens. The government is not just going to randomly pick out epups and then do something nefarious with the data.

I listened to a 3 hr long interview between Steve Keen and Lex Fridman while on a road trip and he instantly became my new favorite economist. The man is absolutely brilliant. I don't remember him talking about a debt jubilee during that interview but I'm curious to go back and see.

Thank you for adding this link.

Here's what I tried with Tic Tac Toe. There's one error in its first response but otherwise it follows along seamlessly. I was really surprised. I'm interested if you can get the same results.

https://pastebin.com/c833TSV2

(It leaves out the first row of the game in its first response, but I was able to interpret the board state since it played on the second row. When I gave it the full board again in my answer it picked it right up.)

That demonstration was amazing and terrifying at the same time. I'm not quite sure what I witnessed.

He nonchalantly announced that GPT-4 does "mental math" and then just didn't elaborate on that. Is it just me or is that absolutely incredible? What does that tell us about the underpinnings of language and mathematics?

If they had evidence for it at the time then why wouldn't it be useful to identify them after the fact?

I see the point you're trying to make. Conspiracy theorists should be treated as broken clocks. If people have evidence but are simply being ignored then I think it's wise to listen to those people.

Insightful writing but that man needs an editor in a bad way.

That's because it is illogical.

“There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs."

Libertarians are stuck in a pubescent state-of-mind and are wholly incapable of viewing the real world as it is. Hence their absolutely insane "political leanings".

Since when did comments on HN become this ignorant?

I forgot that Jerome Powell was a clairvoyant who knew that the pandemic was coming. /s

What sort of dumb comment is this?