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Since both are undoubtedly created by hoaxes and frauds, that's an interesting observation. I guess all artwork really is derivative.

It would be neat to trace that artistic lineage back to its sources.

Then again, there is a commenter on here claiming they look like circuit diagrams (whereas I look at schematics on a daily basis and see no resemblance). So stupid.

Yeah, what the actual fuck. This really makes me question the audience on this site...

Does anyone have any alternatives to hacker news? Preferably ones with more skeptics than there are occultist and "demonologist" morons?

Fucking bizarre.

Thanks, I appreciate you taking the time to correct me.

I looked at some articles from quanta on mathematics I am more familiar with and they were pretty good so I definitely misjudged them.

It's just getting so hard to figure out what's sensationalist and what is not these days.

I stopped listening to anything from quanta magazine after this video:

https://youtu.be/HL7DEkXV_60

Where they claim that that a "landmark proof" and one of the greatest accomplishments in computer science of 2020 solved THE HALTING PROBLEM using "a quantum AI supercomputer."

I looked up the proof and that's not even remotely what the authors paper seems to be talking about...

Not to mention you'd both win the Turing award and have it renamed after you if you solved the halting problem.

So I guess my question is: Is quanta magazine reputable or just more science clickbait? I'm curious what the hacker News audience thinks since I am definitely not a quantum physicist.

I don't know about mirror neurons personally, but the cult-like behaviour, evangelism, and buzz words in business has been easily observable for decades.

Now you go into subreddits like /r/superstonk, bitcoin, GME, Dogecoin, etc. And the cultish religiosity is palpable in these echo chambers too.

So I'm not really surprised by this, if what you've shared is true.

This should not be surprising to anyone. Arstechnica has followed Nikola's terrible and obvious fraud(s) for years now:

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2021/02/nikola-admits-to-making...

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/12/nikola-stock-craters-af...

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/09/nikola-patented-a-stole...

And many more...

The speculation around this stock has been insane for many years now:

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2020/11/nikola-stock-soars-afte...

Top quote: "The market can remain irrational longer than you can roll your eyes at it."

Did the article actually conclude that though? I just read up until the point they were talking about strippers and lap dance tips being correlated with fertility and luteinizing hormone -- which doesn't seem to be about bacterial microbiomes.

> "Fertility statue addiction" has never been a thing

I have a room full of phallic statues from various tribes that proves this wrong.

Also I don't know how familiar you are with fertility statues, but a lot of them actually function as dildos too. And you can DEFINITELY get addicted to those!

This is my experience as well! I usually reflect on my unpopular comments and realize I could have been more considerate or worded things less rashly... Or my viewpoint is just unpopular.

I find it genuinely difficult to relate to the other comments on here equating downvotes to oppression or even violence.

If anything, my hope would be that Hacker News becomes MORE strictly moderated via downvotes, and maybe even starts banning some non-tech oriented politics. Now shower me with downvotes, 500+ karma daddies, to show the little ones it is okay.

I have some ancient greek pottery that would VIGOROUSLY disagree with you. Also fertility statutes. Also a mural I got from Kanamara Matsuri (Japanese penis festival) last year.

Pervasive sexually explicit (by today's standards) imagery most definitely has existed to varying degrees throughout antiquity.

I like the idea of an app to help porn addiction though. People can become addicted to anything, and another tool in the toolbelt for those people is nice and wholesome IMO.

I can speak to this as someone with a disability and social work degree. It's not a popular sentiment but IDGAF at this point.

Yes, this will largely be abused by people who don't need it. Just look at how many students malinger for Adderall scripts or extra time on exams -- it's practically endemic at ivy leagues now.

Disability parking permits are another one that have shocked me at how common abuse of them is in large cities like Toronto. Essentially anytime resources are constrained and an environment is high pressure, these services inevitably see widespread misuse.

High priority low income housing is another area that genuinely shocked me. I had so many clients desperate for housing that they would falsely claim to be high-priority (victims of abuse or terminally ill) it was terrible to see.

The unpopular truth is that these systems are vulnerable to fraud and it absolutely harms people who need them most. HOWEVER, what is the alternative?

Would you suggest we medically validate and police applications?

I've seen that approach taken and it's also a hot mess. It presents barriers not just for people defrauding the system, but the disabled that struggle to navigate the system as well.

I don't know the solution to these issues and it's one of the reasons I got the fuck out of social work as soon as I could.

I won't spoil it in a thread about it, but you can skip to the second last paragraph of this article if you want to cut to the chase.

https://slate.com/culture/2021/07/roadrunner-anthony-bourdai...

So what you're saying is... Toxic is being toxically overused?

>You've confused ethics and morals

Ethics and moral philosophy are synonymous. I don't think they're confused, but you can consult a dictionary if you like.

>The ethical action (which is about professional standards rather than your conscience)

No, as somebody who has studied moral philosophy academically, this is your own unique definition and not normal. Any amount of research from a credible source like plato.standord.edu or even wikipedia will support this.

I opt into personalization and am constantly getting ads for tampons (not a woman), essential oils (yuck), iced tea (I only drink water), chinese clothing (lol), and then sporadically...

100k+ metal 3d printers and other industrial engineering equipment. I am a disabled, unemployed student.

I also have serious doubts that "personalized" ads even really exist. It's like they're trying to show me the least applicable products to my life.

>Beginning at late Genx to early millennial, you're in this for the money.

Huh, this is interesting, maybe in some areas of America? But broadly speaking... Outside of America, no. Take a look at even senior dev salaries in Canada.

They're equivalent to master's of social work positions, oftentimes less. Having had education and work experience in both social work and computer science, I can tell you that if you want a stable, low-stress job that requires an "easy" degree, that MSW degree will serve you far better.

Not to mention that remote work is still rare. So that 90k senior AI research job, requiring a Phd at the Autodesk office in Toronto is... not great. Most computer scientists I know are happy with being middle class and just really enjoy the subject matter. Maybe this is rare in your area of the world?

I am also surprised but you can check and it does indeed seem the majority (90%+) that apply for citizenship every year are accepted...

I would hazard a guess this is because of their population crisis, maybe? They have one of the oldest populations in the world and their birth rate is still less than 1.5. That's a recipe for social and economic disorder, with current levels of automation.

Huh, TIL...

Looking at some sources the issue seems to be fairly complex, however it does indeed seem fairly easy relative to other countries like Canada to gain Japanese citizenship (though very few apply).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Japan#Immigrant...

Looking at this and other citizenship guides, the main requirements seem to be that:

1. You live and work in Japan for 5 years (not counting student visas)

2. Are the age of majority in your country and over 20

3. Have not broken any laws while in Japan

4. Are able to support yourself financially and are willing to renounce other citizenships

It seems that about 90% of people that apply for naturalization are accepted. Yet less than ~10,000 are accepted every year, so applying for citizenship seems unpopular relative to other G7 countries.

Neat. I wonder why I was so certain that immigration was next to impossible and only visas were granted?

I think you've demonstrated far more familiarity with the subject matter than me (and my own understanding is admittedly pretty basic), and just wanted to say I really appreciate your thoughtful response. You're right that those quotes don't really fit for what you were asking for evidence of.

I also agree that the absence of such a refutation is a pretty solid argument that your position is simply a fact and not an opinion as I argued.

Cheers friend!

According to this:

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/church-turing/

"In his review of Turing’s work, Church himself acknowledged the superiority of Turing’s analysis of effectiveness, saying:

computability by a Turing machine … has the advantage of making the identification with effectiveness in the ordinary (not explicitly defined) sense evident immediately. (Church 1937a: 43)"

Moreover, Gödel himself (as well as other mathematicians) found Turing machines and Turing's thesis to be more persuasive:

Gödel also found Turing’s analysis superior. Kleene related that Gödel was unpersuaded by Church’s thesis until he saw Turing’s formulation:

According to a November 29, 1935, letter from Church to me, Gödel “regarded as thoroughly unsatisfactory” Church’s proposal to use λ-definability as a definition of effective calculability. … It seems that only after Turing’s formulation appeared did Gödel accept Church’s thesis. (Kleene 1981: 59, 61)

Gödel described Turing’s analysis of computability as “most satisfactory” and “correct … beyond any doubt” (Gödel 1951: 304 and *193?: 168)."

For what it's worth, I do think you've started an interesting discussion!

You're allowed to have an opinion that you prefer lambda calculus over LCMs (logical computing machines -- a better term for Turing machine's that Turing favoured) for conceptualizing and reasoning about computation mathematically.

Myself, I find Conway's game of life to be the superior framework over both lambda calculus and Turing's Logical Computing Machine :-P