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And complexity of that subjective experience is what takes us towards a description of consciousness.

Knowledge which is described by true false statements can not be conscious experience, true and the essay just says our subjective conscious experience is only a representation of the true/false statements experienced by us as a private language

This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).

Haven't read this completely though, but the arguments presented in these quoted passages does seem to suggest that the above posted model of consciousness is a refined method saying the same things as , consciousness is related to complexity and the internal model(evolved for evolutionary purposes)which is evolving over time (it might also be considered an analogue of subjective experience as presented in the paper).The contents of this debate seem to agree with what is being said in the consciousness model presented above, feel free to express any thoughts or questions about if the desire arises.

Thanks for the update,

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Tmd_3DXbnC2YovDHuMslTs68...

This link is working, in case the there is a desire to check it out

This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).

This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).

It does seem to need some edits, might take some time,any thoughts on the propositions made in it ?

This document presents an opinion piece about a standardized/objective description of consciousness given in a definite manner.Its propositions might seem to share aspects with Karl Friston's hypothesis of brains as Bayesian inference machines , Wittgenstein's private language discussions and Tononi's usage of a complexity metric in Integrated Information Theory (IIT).

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

It seems there is a possibility for curation of a Complexity measuring method here,and the type that is required might be of interest to a logician/complexity theorist

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

Any explanation on this?

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

It seems true that Consciousness in it's form present in humans has been affected by evolution and natural selection, that's something which seems like a given above Consciousness,it has helped survival of humans and thus the ability to maintain it in their offspring has been selected

Any queries or thoughts about the model?

Ohh.., welcome, can those results be shared about the works it helped?,feel free to express any queries or thoughts about it.

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

It's not of an object, about an object had by the observer

And yes the contrast between the self and the object is quite clear here , Consciousness can only be had when an inference has been made, only inferences(whether made in qualia or in a shared language) can lead to consciousness consciousness

It seems what is meant by an object is misunderstood here ,even if an object shows a change of state overtime,even that fact is a quality of the object...

And, Consciousness is had by an observer about an object (it's a property of the observer, dependent on the state of the object)

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments with conjectures are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory

The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT usage of a complexity metric(amount of information) for measurement purposes with some subtleties of of it's own to add .

The part about choosing a method of measuring complexity seems to be something that can be looked over by a logician to get it refined for the models usage, some thought experiments are there in that regard which might be worth looking into or to check their validity.

This paper presents a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory

The aim is to enumerate definitely described aspects of consciousness and present them in a coherent manner,talks about both phenomenal Consciousness (seen as attention)and access Consciousness,

Some aspects described about consciousness might seem akin to karl friston's view of defining brains as Bayesian inference machines, Wittgenstein's private language argument and Tononi's IIT

Was developing a descriptive model of consciousness based on information theory for submission in an essay writing competition.

The goal is to enumerate aspects of consciousness in a definite and objective manner and try to reach a coherent description of it.

The paper might seem to share elements with karl friston's definition of modelling brains as Bayesian inference machines,usage of amount of information measures in Tononi's IIT and Wittgenstein's private sensations (qualia) in his private language There are some other subtleties which might seem like novel arguments about it.

There is a thought experiment with a conjecture , it's something which can't be ascertained individually,it needs third person unbiased perspective,one of the reasons it's being posted here(under the section:Some Thoughts A Thought Experiment)

Ok

This paper presents a novel method of defining and measuring Consciousness with a descriptive model of it, trying to encompass all it's aspects in a definite and objective manner with an attempt at reaching a coherence between them

It has elements akin Tononi's IIT theory's usage of complexity metrics, Karl friston's modelling of brains as Bayesian inference machines and Wittgenstein's private language argument

The methods of measuring complexity might be able to do better with a refinement,one possibility has been conjectured within the paper using a thought experiment

This article presents an attempt at defining consciousness in a definite and objective manner by coherently trying to present it's aspects

The model might seem have similarities to karl friston's idea of brains a Bayesian inference machines,usage of metrics of measuring information in tononi's IIT theory and Wittgenstein's private language argument among other subtleties that are mentioned about the subject of consciousness in the paper itself

This paper attempts at a definite, objective description of consciousness trying to describe it's aspects in a coherent manner,The sections about complexity metrics and a thought experiment at last might be of interest to a logician and might act as a crude or a refinement for the model,any thoughts?

This paper presents a definitely described and coherently attenuated descriptive model of consciousness based on information and complexity theory,the metrics of complexity and the thought experiments in the end of the paper might be of interest to a logician

Thanks for the update,will need sometime to do that, meanwhile,this link might be of use

https://philpapers.org/go.pl?id=VOGAAA-5&proxyId=&u=https%3A...

Oh yeah, might have made a mistake