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Another blow to the "legalization kills the black market" argument
Also look at Fig. 1 in the first study
No deaths were proven, that does not mean nothing sensitive or harmful was in the data. The argument failed in the sense that the court found that the leaked info was sensitive and harmful at the time of release:
https://archive.org/details/usa-v-manning-third-party-transc... page 7
> You dont remotely appear to be familiar with the facts OR are intentionally ignoring recent history. > https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/cia-discussed-kidnapping-... > https://news.yahoo.com/kidnapping-assassination-and-a-london... > https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/t... > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunstler_v._Central_Intelligen...
The US has plans to nuke Russia and China too, doesn't mean they are going to follow through on them. Even in the absolutely unhinged Trump administration, there were enough checks to stop the wilder plans from getting anywhere close to happening, and now the most objectionable thing the CIA ended up doing was getting the contents of some phones from UC Global, for which they are being sued.
Not really, the full text of the indictment is in my link. I'd encourage you to read through it.
> It's super important to remember that a lot of what he did is pretty much what investigative journalists do all the time. Caitlin Johnstone nailed it when she said that Assange is getting heat for the same kind of work that journalists are praised for: helping sources stay anonymous, secure chats, and encouraging more leaks. This isn't "hacking" in the criminal sense; it's basic journalism 101 in today's digital world.
That's also the same kind of work that espionage entails. The discriminating factor is, like in many areas of law, intent. Specifically for classified info, whether it was leaked with the public interest in mind or to "be used to the injury of the United States or the advantage of any foreign nation" and the degree to which the leaker conspired with the source. Yeah that's vague, but that's what a trial is for. Assange leaked unredacted cables, documents on cyberwarfare capabilities, in addition to stuff that was obviously of public interest. He and Wikileaks released so many documents that they admitted they didn't even look through most of it. "Helping sources stay anonymous" is a deeply funny thing to say that Assange did given what he leaked.
> Manning’s lawyer even argued that the leaked info didn’t contain anything that was still sensitive or would harm ongoing missions.
And that argument failed.
> When they went after Assange with those Espionage Act charges, they weren't just targeting him; they were firing a warning shot at every journalist out there.
There is, like, no better country on Earth to publish secrets about than the US. Glenn Greenwald and the Snowden documents, The Intercept and the Reality Winner documents, Neil Sheehan et al. and the Pentagon Papers. Even the sources themselves get fairly moderate sentences. Reality Winner got ~5 years, Manning got out after 7, Ellsberg wasn't even sentenced because the Nixon admin was so corrupt. The idea that Assange is going to be extrajudicially murdered as soon as he steps foot in the US is projection.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-sup...
Keyword is "armed militia". You can look a few of them up on Google to see what they get up to.
People yell at Meta when they don't moderate content and when they do moderate content, so I don't envy them.