The 'Atlanta Magnet Man' is saving our car tires, one bike ride at a time
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There's a local group that helps folks find stolen bikes:
https://www.wsj.com/us-news/your-bike-just-got-stolen-these-...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OkGk2YRSnw
There's also an explosion of channels where professional landscapers and pressure washers do the occasional free job on a house in desperate need while recording it for YouTube. It's great background TV and likely more effective than any kind of paid advertising.
Think of all of the "I rescued this kitten from a well!!!" videos, only to find that that's the only type of video that channel makes, ie they're throwing kittens down wells.
I volunteered at an animal shelter that was not no-kill, because of sheer demand, sadly.
Of new volunteers, they ask "What's in it for you?"
Inevitably, "I get to help animals find new homes, etc."
However they'd say "No - that's what you'll do here. But what do you get out of it?"
And they wanted selfish answers. "I feel better about myself", whatever.
Because what they'd found is when things were a struggle, it was the "what's in it for me" that often pushed people to keep helping and volunteering, rather than (solely) "the mission".
We need all of this we can get.
So many people are unhappy these days because they feel they aren't doing anything that meaningfully helps their community. We're a social species. We thrive when we feel we are helping our tribe thrive.
Today, I jump-started a car for a sketchy couple in rough shape at the end of a dirt road in the middle of nowhere that I encountered after making a wrong turn. Forensic Files episodes often start this way, but I still stopped to help.
To be happy, I recommend looking at what the media pushes and doing the exact opposite. No matter what it is. Even when you're wrong, you'll be right often enough to negate the losses.
Sob story about ___? The subjects are always going to prove to be criminals or assholes. Avoid them.
Be afraid of these people! They're probably being put upon and desperately need your help.
Don't be afraid of these people! They just want to scam you.
#believewomen! Don't.
Never again.
I have no problem telling / hoping someone would pickup the trash they saw and helped out even if a little. But not so much retrieving stolen bikes, those folks, their call.
Possession of stolen property is still a serious crime. There is generally no exemption for vigilante people returning stolen goods. I honestly would not advise amassing stolen property in your garage no matter your good intentions. Batman wears a mask for a reason.
Why didn't they want their bicycles?
Magnets don't pick up broken glass.
It’d go to a random company that never did anything related to trash pick up, but one of the board members would be loosely related to the mayor.
The mayor will then do a victory lap in front of journalists talking about this revolutionary project.
The winner would then sub-contract a series of shell companies to handle ‘planning the design and implementation’ of the vehicle used to pick up the debris.
3 months will pass and the first community board meeting about the pilot in the neighborhood will happen, where the project will hit vicious opposition from people citing gentrification, how this pilot will rip apart the fabric of the neighborhood, cause gridlock, be dangerous for kids (What if a kid runs infront of the magnet bike??), etc…
6 months and $5M later, the pilot gets extended and another $50M worth of funding having never picked up an ounce of trash.
Hello from NYC
But how about we actually fund street sweeping at a level that this isn't necessary?
i don't really know what a normal street sweeping schedule is, but this seems kinda infrequent? i know my town does a big sweep in the spring after the snow melts, but it seems like most of the major routes and all of downtown is on more like a weekly to monthly basis.
<https://sfpublicworks.org/services/mechanical-street-sweepin...>
I live in Atlanta, ride both car and bicycle and do not have flat tire more often than average. Perhaps thanks to his help!
Every time I've had a flat caused by a road item it has been on or very near the shoulder.
Most of them would probably stay for a few days until someone cleans the street, but it only takes one unhappy drunk to knock a bottle into the street.
I probably look like a terminal alcoholic to my neighbours.
Related >> https://bikeportland.org/2022/01/07/a-california-inventor-is...
As much as I or someone might feel I "shouldn't" have to, it's pretty efficient to just have someone do the job right then and there.
Like I show up at a playground at say 8 am, maybe the trash left there was from 8 hours ago ... now someone gets upset that the city didn't do a thing that is probably a rebellious expectation (can't patrol all the parks overnight every 8 hours) and they shove their hands in their pockets and pout.
I'd rather folks just pick some stuff up and toss it in the bin nearby and we're all good.
A sign saying that keeping the place clean is a shared responsibility is sure to get things back on track…
A lot of the litter by me either falls out of the bin/truck during collection, is dug out of trash cans by squirrels, or spills out when the wind opens the can lid or even blows it over completely. There's things we can do to mitigate that but it'll never be perfect so you'll always see "someone else's trash" blowing in the wind.
If you can stop for a moment to take a picture, you could pick a piece of it up too... but there's also the "ah I don't have time to do it all so I won't do anything"
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There are some jobs that probably won't ever pay well, so there's not much moral hazard in doing them for free, of course.
Ideally what would happen is that people would be self-conscious enough to figure out after one or two slip ups that someone else is having to clean up for them, and feel bad enough to avoid doing it in the future.
This has become one of my bigger hard learned lessons. I used to go out of my way to be as considerate as possible to everyone I interacted with, trying to predict issues and mentioning them early to make things easier for others even if it might inconvenience myself. The idea was that people would reciprocate enough that it'd make things easier for myself too.
But over the years I've had to stop accepting that, because as it turns out, most people really don't care. Being extremely accommodating and planning ahead to fit someone's constraints won't mean that I get the courtesy returned. They'll just continue to push me around at their own convenience.
I've lived long enough to know that this won't happen in my lifetime, it requires an entirely different societal mindset... something closer to shame/collectivism a country like Japan has (they still have litterers of course, but a much smaller number)
Chronic litterbugs don't care, they're often low enough on the hierarchy of needs that this kind of morality isn't on their radar at all.
If everyone pitched in, you might pick up a single piece of trash occasionally... so you'd avoid the "I just cleaned up this whole park yesterday" problem, because in theory you'd have a larger number or people doing a little work rather than a smaller number doing most of it.
I regularly pick up trash in my neighborhood, so I get it though... it's impossible for one person to keep up with.
For example, in India, there's a pretty jarring contrast in big cities, between pristine modern buildings with immaculate interiors situated on a street literred with garbage. While Indian society loves to label littering as shameful, because no one sees the street as something they also partly own, their idea of cleaning only extends to keeping their own building immaculate.
Don’t forget the deliberate litterbugs. There are plenty of people out there with a “for every bottle you pick up, I’ll litter three” attitude. Belligerence against anything seen as a public good is on the rise. I know someone who believes having a clean, trash-free neighborhood is a “liberal” thing. Blows my mind.
I used to think trash around my neighborhood was from just a general mass of people not caring about littering. It sounds like that's what you think too.
Then, one day, I saw a homeless guy dumping every single trash can on the street out completely, tearing open the bags, looking for maybe 2 seconds, and then moving on to the next trash can.
Call me harsh, but that behavior should merit a serious prison sentence. I think people overestimate the damage something like this causes to the environment, but underestimate the damage it does to society and the way people think about each other.
It doesn't have to be prison-prison; but something like that does call for maybe a Nordic-style prison that isolates society from the low-level but consistent harm.
It's all very tragedy of the commons.
Not harsh, just lacking creativity and losing sight of what prison is for.
For every piece of litter dropped, the sentence should be to pick up 10 more. Make criminals fix the problems they cause.
Maybe some, but certainly not all!
> The idea was that people would reciprocate enough that it'd make things easier for myself too.
Here is the flaw in your plan; it was a flaw in my plan too. In more naive days, I thought that too. Then at some point we realize what you did: people don't do good things, and you aren't going to change most of them.
That's when we can take a big step forward, and learn what true altruism, generosity, and most of all, what love is: It's caring for and doing good for people who don't 'deserve' it; who act like jerks and idiots, who even do bad things. Anyone who has done good in their life learns this lesson. That is love, the only love in any meaningful sense.
That truth is well known, but not always widely discussed. Look at the Gospels in Christianity, and everything that says we are all sinners. Look at stories of prophets in every culture: ignored, attacked, lynched. More contemporaneously, do you think people who do great good, like Washington or Gandhi or MLK, did not realize what you did about human nature? All those people, those religions, those philosophers - they all know. When Jefferson wrote 'All men are created equal, and are endowed with inalienable rights', he knew who he was writing about. When the framers of the Constitution wrote about forming 'a more perfect union', they knew that would be done would be 'of the people, by the people, and for the people' (as Lincoln said later) - and they knew about people.
And it's about you too. You're a sinner, and an asshole, and ignorant too, just like me. If that's not love, if love excludes those people, who loves you and me? Remember that ancient prayer: 'Forgive us our trespasses ...'.
Last year I was forced to drag my belongings between 3 apartments, each time with zero forewarning, in the summer heat, to rooms with no AC (despite my initial room having been AC, and my still having to pay the higher rent for it), while I had to prepare for my first ever research conference and later was recovering from the worst flu I've ever had, they even dragged me to a roommate conduct meeting which had nothing to do with me, right in the middle of moving. The person the meeting was actually about didn't even attend.
Each time, I had to go to the dorm office and talk to the head administrator in person to get any useful information on what was going on, and was only offered to be compensated after the third time when I came in to the administrator's office, looking half dead from the flu.
I refuse to 'love' people who would put complete strangers through all that suffering without seeming to put in even the smallest effort to empathize and try to make things easier (eg by explaining the things in the email, which they told me in person). I'm not a prophet or saint, nor do I aspire to be one. The only people entitled to my completely unconditional love, generosity, tolerance etc are my immediate family, and friends to a slightly lesser extent. With most other people I'm happy to be polite and help them in small ways by default, but going out of my way to be helpful stops as soon as it becomes obvious that they don't even think about reciprocating in even the smallest of ways. It simply isn't worth the stress I put myself through, and besides not being fair to me, it isn't fair to everyone who does try to reciprocate.
I've had many other similar experiences of my kindness being shamelessly exploited by people who haven't earned it, to the point that they became a bonding moment with my father as he too has had lots of experience with that and had come to a similar approach to treating human interaction. He often got accused of being insincere because of how much effort he put into keeping things smooth for people who reciprocated compared to those who didn't.
I don't mean to be dismissive about your experience; we all have a hard road, and some much harder than others. Still, if we're talking about it honestly: Why should the admnistrator and other people have compassion for you if you don't have it for others? I'll bet that, not being saint and under all that stress, you weren't perfect in what you were doing. I'll bet the administrator and others were also under many different stressors like you were; who was understanding them?
The only way there is compassion in the world is when it's between stressed people acting less than their best, often much less. If it's restricted to near-perfection, it wouldn't exist; the word 'compassion' wouldn't have any usage or meaning.
But that doesn't mean I do it well all the time. And I'm a jerk too and I hope people have compassion for me.
Foul. I applaud your boldness (the world needs it) but if you're going to play Bad Cop then you have to bring something more to the table than the rationalizations of a gambler. Otherwise this is coercion.
My favorite example: "I'd bet you wouldn't suck my dick, you homophobe." Your answer determines whether you go to bed tonight as a loser, a villain, or a cocksucker.
When you get these sorts of accusations wrong, you're being cruel to an otherwise-innocent person and causing them to doubt themselves. This causes harm. Skepticism and compassion can coexist-- it's called certainty. Call your shots or don't take them.
> The only way there is compassion in the world is when it's between stressed people acting less than their best, often much less. If it's restricted to near-perfection, it wouldn't exist; the word 'compassion' wouldn't have any usage or meaning.
Yep. Forgiving minor trespasses, turning the other cheek and all that hippie Jesus shit makes for a pretty chill life. Even he lost his temper.
I think that's an important point to raise. However, I had thought I dealt with that well. I wrote,
Why should the admnistrator and other people have compassion for you if you don't have it for others? I'll bet that, not being saint and under all that stress, you weren't perfect in what you were doing. I'll bet the administrator and others were also under many different stressors like you were; who was understanding them?
The GGP already said they weren't a saint - I used their language - and my assertion wasn't that they did something awful, but that they simply were imperfect - a pretty certain guess for anyone.
Still, I generally agree - one needs evidence, not a fabrication.
> Forgiving minor trespasses, turning the other cheek and all that hippie Jesus shit makes for a pretty chill life. Even he lost his temper.
Are you being sarcastic? Also, I don't think we need to forgive only tresspasses that are minor, and I don't see it as a 'chill life', but as important and even essential behavior by all of us (IMHO - I'm not forcing anyone to do it).
> Otherwise this is coercion.
A minor point, but where do you see 'coercion'? What am I coercing them to do and how?
* I make a point of not picking up everything I see, rather just do an incremental bit at each opportunity
* I set a basic standard for when I should: if I literally see litter and a trashcan along the path I’m traveling - the goal being to minimize the cost / maximize the value of the effort.
Even with such minimal practices I probably pick up more litter than 90+% of people. :P
The swing did undergo some maintenance in the meantime, but somehow that one part is still loose.
People complain all the time about underfunded cities but if every property in the city was getting charged as much as I was per year, the street sweeping service should have been worldclass. It's things like this that make people distrust city government and not inclined to give them more money for little return.
The Kasim Reed years produced a few federal prosecutions [e.g. 0], but generally it's been pretty quiet?
And it's not like the US Attorney isn't looking. So either Atlanta politicians are better at hiding their crimes, or they aren't committing them at the average rate [1].
Subjectively, I'd say that Atlanta has a fair amount of low-level corruption (see the Park amounts), but generally avoids the major-level corruption that other cities get caught in.
[0] https://www.ajc.com/news/local/torpy-large-when-the-cost-you...
[1] https://pols.uic.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/273/2023/11/Co...
The city wants to use some land for a public purpose. They steamrolled local opposition to do so.
It'd arguably be more corrupt if they turned around and sold it to developers. (I haven't looked at the details of how City Hall East was sold into Ponce City Market)
To me, corruption is individual enrichment at injury to the public or subverting legal processes in place.
Sold through the Atlanta Development Authority, in 2011, for $27M, with a portion of the paid as the development achieves milestones.
And gets a $600,000/yr expense off the city's books.
I walked through the entire empty building during the sale... and could definitely say there needed to be a LOT of renovation (including structural) before it was usable.
Also, apparently holes between 12' ceiling floors were acceptable safety practices when it was built. No OSHA!
https://roughdraftatlanta.com/2011/08/01/city-hall-east-to-b...
For bonus points, their elections are often staggered separately from state and federal elections, which suppresses voter interest and turnout.
You get what the system is designed to produce.
Sadly they're unpractical and only last around 30mins ~
A minuscule effort up front avoids disproportionately larger effort later.
> Atlanta’s transportation department budget was cut by 12% last year. ... about $50 million is three times less than peer cities.
sad.
That said, those are a lot higher off the ground; the video shows the sweepers are only an inch or so over the ground. If something catches, it's more likely to just make the cart buck instead of sending the driver.
Source: am Dutch, rode into a rock once, that was pretty bad.
I think the rate of tire puncturing is low enough that you wouldn't bother changing the design.
What happens when the rear wheel locks up? Not much
What happens if the front wheel locks up? If it catches you off guard, you're launched face first into pavement.
Generally it's low, but in this case you are purposely steering toward the debris. Usually you avoid it if you see it.
As an European, this left me a bit shocked. Where is that debris even coming from? Shoddily "maintained" vehicles? Insecure loads? And why are there no sweeper trucks sweeping the streets and bike lanes?
I am through "A Paradise Built in Hell" right now, and that, combined with having spent 6 years in a (small) town leadership position makes me appreciate the unfortunate consequences of thought like that last line.
It feels like leaning hard into capitalist democracy rather than socialist democracy. The idea that things don't get done unless someone gets off their butt, puts a line item in the budget and makes sure someone is getting paid to do it not because they want to but because their compensation is adequate is destined to fail in really unfortunate ways.
Part of the book referenced above is all about the failure of the "organized" parts of government in times of crisis. It turns out, most people in community want things to be better, but learning that the "city" or "county" will do it for you if you just pay your taxes kind of neuters the impulse to be a part of your community. Instead of cleaning up the road side, people end up with book clubs or art committees, because someone's getting paid $12/hr to clean up the road for you. It's not a great look, and has disastrous consequences when things go really bad.
The problem is, not all bureaucrats are evil, but all bureaucracy begins at neutral and tends towards evil, so there's a sad inevitability involved. And my hackles went up because even I, who consider myself pretty self-aware, ended up in some horrible conversations where I know I preferred the town having authority over something volunteers had historically done. We are all part-nazi, some of us just have more authority.
Last month we had to shell out close to $1k to replace all four tires when a large (>10cm) nail punctured one. Costco guy said you had to change all of them, I didn't't believe him but after research found out that if you have some mileage on your tires, you can't just change one (actually there was mentioned of reducing the grooves of the new tire to match the old ones but that sounded error prone).
We need a magnet man for all big cities!
The argument on AWD is that it might cause more expensive increased wear on the AWD system in off-road conditions. If you're only driving on roads this probably isn't such a big deal, and some sports cars don't even have the same size tires front/back.
Most nails and screws (1/8" or 3mm) in the middle of the tire can be patched (if you're not driving >100mph), but that was one BIG nail! Side walls really can't be safely patched, and most places won't patch anything even close.
Shop asked if they could have it for their countertop display of weird stuff they pulled out of tires.
Anyway, they recommended replacing both front tires, but I only did the one and it was fine. I understand the reasoning, I just don't agree with it because tires simply don't wear at the same rate.
If it is one of the 'typical' ones you see on something like a Ford Escape or Chevy Blazer where it activates on slippage, you are probably OK on normal roads as long as the wear isn't extreme.
But if it's something with a 50/50 default split or other 'always on' fanciness, tires are cheaper than Diffs.
Used tires make sense for used car dealers where they have the equipment and can tell a mechanic to do this "when you have otherwise free time". In that case you can replace worn out tires with only half used tires and since you won't see the car again you don't lose anything. (nobody would buy the car with worn out tires so you have to replace them, but saving money on the replacement is a good idea)
To OP's point, most of the used tires are nearly brand new tires that are getting tossed out because 1 of the set had a flat. So I am rolling on $300 Hanook tires with 95% of their tread life, and I only paid $50 a tire (including install).
These are also mom & pop businesses that are actively preventing waste.
I made the switch to used tires and have never looked back.
If you're in a small town, the hassle of finding the right size may be enough to make the new tires worth it.
Either way, you can almost always find a "free install" somewhere.
In contrast the regularly tilts forwards and back, and little changes back and forth don't affect steering.
Costco doesn't offer that service. But you can order a shaved replacement from Tire Rack and they'll ship it to a local shop for installation. This works fine but takes a few days so it's only practical if you can leave the vehicle parked.
https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/can-tires-be-shaved-...
You go played by the mechanic. Even if the tread depth thing was an issue, you could have swapped out two rather than four. Unless you are racing, your car will be fine with slightly different treads rear and front. The reality is that most cars are like that anyway. Fronts often wear more than rears these days. So unless you are rotating your tires every month, tread depths will be different no matter what you do.
Think of this scenario. What happens when someone sits in the back seat of a car? That compresses the rear tires slightly, imparting a slightly a different radius. Many cars will ask you to increase rear PSI to compensate, but nobody ever does. Are diffs failing for this? Nope. AWD cars and trucks manage carrying a random number of rear passengers just fine without any adjustment to tire radii.
Besides, regardless if it's a myth - doing it will void your warranty, it's a requirement in every AWD service manual, and any tire guy caught doing it will be held liable if your diff blows up later. No mechanic or tire shop will agree to swapping out just two.
The manual probably also says that aftermarket oil/air filters will void warrantees, or that changing your own brake pads is dangerous. Total bunk.
If it's your car feel free to try it and tell me if you get a bunch of dash lights from your AWD computer.
> The manual probably also says that aftermarket oil/air filters will void warrantees, or that changing your own brake pads is dangerous.
If your manual actually says this I will eat my hat. It's literally illegal in the US: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnuson%E2%80%93Moss_Warranty...
If you have a torsen or similar FWD car that only engages the rear wheels when slip is detected (most Audis with transverse mounted engines, VWs, etc), then you're fine.
Tire diameter in passenger cars does not change with loading.
> Think of this scenario. What happens when someone sits in the back seat of a car? That compresses the rear tires slightly, imparting a slightly a different radius.
The tire radius changes, but that doesn't matter. What matters is the rate at which the axle turns relative to distance covered, and I doubt that changes significantly with loading.
An AWD has an additional center diff or transfer case that allows the combined rotation of the front (trans)axle and rear axle to be different (because unless you are steering dead straight on a flat non-cambered road they will always be slightly different).
A 4WD doesn't have that center diff and you have to manually engage 4WD to use it (that difference between 4WD and AWD). You will get transmission wind-up if drive in 4WD in anything other than a straight line on a normal road surface -- fine in the mud or snow because the wheels will slip easily enough to reduce the windup.
In fact if you get really stuck, you want a diff-lock or limited slip diff so you can prevent the power going all to one wheel (or two in an AWD/4WD config).
It's a myth used to sell more tires.
Did I just get extremely lucky? Is this the norm? Tires seem really expensive but somehow I'm not paying the fees and my tires are good quality goodyears too.
Most people forget about the "tire insurance" and never claim, even if they could, so it's basically free money.
They give you new tires because it doesn't cost them anything, they get paid.
Discount considers it part of their marketing, so they actually have a pretty decent one: https://www.discounttire.com/customer-service/certificates
It IS limited to 3 years.
If your goal is to pick up loose ferrous material (much of which incidentally turns out to be dust, some of which is apparently meteoric in origin), you don't need magnets which are capable of yoinking a manhole cover or sewer grating out of the ground. An array of magnets, periodically wiped into the normal trash flow, should do the trick. (This is a case where electromagnets rather than fixed magnets are probably superior.) A fancy-pants solution might use GPS and GIS to note locations of known ferrous infrastructure (grates and the like), though it seems to me that simply by tuning the magnet's strength and reach it should be possible to, say, lift a few grams of nails or tacks, whilst leaving the 100kg+ covers and grates in place.
(There are a few smaller utility openings, though I suspect those are rare, as street furniture generally needs to Not Move whilst being trampled by autos, lorries, busses, etc.)
This is of course aside from Atlanta's apparently quite stingy sweeping schedule, another matter.
Switchable electromagnets which could automatically sense a large ferrous object (e.g., grates, covers) and deactivate or reduce strength over them might be another option.
A filtered reply to my earlier comment argues that electromagnets are "massive with generators". This ... is seriously misguided. Electromagnets can be tiny, you'll find them in small motors (electric toothbrush, the haptic vibrator in your mobile device). Given extant electric capabilities of a streetsweeper, a modest grid/array of magnets would be trivial to implement.
also benign.
Can’t they say ‘it’s one third the budget of comparable cities’? Is that what ‘three times less’ means?
That’s why one gets praise and the other gets criminal charges.
https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/fire-atlanta-construction-s...
I wish it worked with glass :-) :-)
I sometimes sweep up broken glass from bike lanes in my community. I need gloves, a broom, a dustpan, and a trash bag. Not as efficient. Needs a car, not a bike.
Round here if you put any sizeable metal (like a radiator or something) out front of your house someone will collect it to take for scrap. So if there were that amount of metal on the roads they would be keen to attach magnets to their vans. Although if it needs a large number of high quality magnets to do the job, it might not be economic for them.
You'd think there would be better enforcement of having to have a tarp, etc. for open trailers that are carrying junk.
When I visited the US and its highways, I was surprised to see how much things like exploded truck tires were littering the sides of the road.
if that magnet cart design could be open-sourced, then it might be updated or made cheaper by others, and used in other places too!
Nice.
He donated his collection to a scrap artist (probably a worthy cause though that depends on your subjective opinion on the art produced), so he doesn't get the money, but it is still fun to figure out the value of his work.
That he could cash out on. The greater value is all the time in people's lives that would have been wasted from damaged tires: fixing or replacing the tire, time spent to earn money to fix or replace the tire, the time people would have spent in traffic trying to get around the disabled vehicles, etc.
The computed dollar value is pale by comparison. We should talk more about this community value IMO
Is that the normal amount. In the UK I see sweepers around, I guess maybe it takes that long to get around or do we just sweep more in other countries ?
EDIT: I looked up my area in London https://www.southwark.gov.uk/street-care/litter-on-streets-a...
Most residential roads in the borough receive a litter- picking service every other day and are manually swept once every 5 weeks. Busy areas, such as retail areas, have a daily presence to make sure they're kept clean and litter free.
I know US infrastructure is worse, but this is to quite a ridiculous level - the amount of damage everyone is paying for, for their cars is insane.My (my much smaller, car dependent city) is annually.
The state of infrastructure greatly depends on where you are in the US.
https://atlanta.curbed.com/2019/1/29/18201457/super-bowl-lii...
Around the same time, a nearby suburban county only spent $10 million for a pedestrian and road bridge over a heavily used Interstate highway to get fans from parking areas to their stadium.
It's not this bad everywhere. Atlanta is a notoriously corrupt and poorly run city.
Dense US cities, such as SF and NYC, have more regular sweepings.
> In 2023, 6,633.46 tons of debris was swept from the roads and hauled to the Dane County Landfill.
You know what you hear online, you mean.