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Highly recommend reddit.com/r/Alcoholism_Medication has a next step for anyone interested in learning more. Not only is the community extremely supportive, the sidebar links out to great resources including a free/legal PDF of the aforementioned Espaka book. That book was my starting point, highly recommended, it is a quick read and lays down the foundation for The Sinclair Method in the first few chapters (it is an incredibly simple system and that is why it works).
This is definitely not true having worked with addiction specialists on TSM myself. Plus I think it is safe to consider Sinclair himself as an addiction specialist
For those looking to learn more about different ways to use Naltrexone to treat alcoholism: https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article/36/1/2/137995
For me, it felt as though the content of my work is what drove me to do this. Building CRUD applications, refactoring legacy code, writing exhaustive tests, etc were all things that I would get stoned for, saving things like writing design docs and meetings for the non-stoned days. Combine this with a decade of using cannabis to make mundane tasks more interesting in my personal life (playing a video game I have already logged 1K+ hours in, watching a TV show I have seen 10x times, washing dishes, etc) and it's easy to see how I got to this point. The reality of adult life and software engineering as a career is that a lot of it is just boring. Now, whether or not smoking pot actually fixed that boredom is a different question...
This is all to say, if you or a loved one is struggling with alcoholism, I highly recommend looking into The Sinclair Method. Check out /r/alcoholism_medication or this accounts recent comment history. That community supports those that use disulfiram as well, but I cannot comment on that medication myself
I smoked cannabis only after work for a long time in the before time. I had tried, although without any professional help, to get that down to only weekends. But inevitably it would creep back in: I'd end up smoking on a Thursday or Monday night, in addition to the weekend, and then slowly add weeknights back until it was every day. Things got so much worse during the pandemic, I started using it 24/7, it was seemingly the only escape from the mundane. At the very least I'm glad I wasn't drinking during those times but it was far from ideal given both my shift away from drinking alcohol limited my social life and COVID obviously made that oh so much worse. Smoking and playing video games was all that I had left. I'm back to the weekends now, given it is winter with COVID restrictions in my area, it is still the driver of my social life.
I'm not coming to you with all of the answers. I'm interested in what the community comes up with myself. But here are my own tips and learnings that you might find useful: - ADD is a HUGE part of this situation. I see you mentioned it in a comment but not the main post. I didn't even know I had it until I got help for depression during the pandemic and eventually was diagnosed. ADHD makes it hard to put up with the mundane. Cannabis can make any mundane task interesting for me, although with a pretty low success rate. Taking Concerta has helped in a non-trivial way but hasn't fixed everything - Recently I've started to put more effort into smoking the right way if I do smoke. For example, if I had some exercise planned that day, I do that before smoking. (I do powerlifting so I definitely don't wanna be high for that). Or, if I do smoke and play video games, do it when some of my friends are online so it's a social activity. I end up too introverted sometimes. I'm also working on starting later in the day when I do smoke. If I start smoking at 10am, I'm dead tired by 4pm and the rest of the day is ruined. Instead if I start at 6pm, I'm dead tired around when it is time to go to bed. This isn't some trick to get myself to consume less. If anything, this is causing me to enjoy smoking more, which might be my goal
I'll probably update this comment when I think of more things. Until then, I am with you my friend, your experience is shared. I wish I had better advice but I'm not any farther along in this journey so I don't have it. In the meantime, I hope you find these ramblings useful
> It's not having what you want
> It's wanting what you've got
It always amazed me that such a powerful idea could be conveyed in two lines of a pop song, so it makes a lot of sense that it came from elsewhere.
[1] https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
If I understand correctly, S.J. Res 29 [1] is a senate resolution that answers this exact question. Looking at the voting result [2], 2 Democrats voted YAY (ie expressing disapproval of the mandate) along with some Independents and all Republicans. This leads me to believe that a similar rule would not pass the Senate. Although there could be more to the story, eg I don't know the motivation that the two Democrats had when voting YAY, especially given at least to my understanding this kind of vote is more symbolic than anything.
[1] https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-joint-re... [2] https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1...
Seeing this post makes me want to try to quit again and see how it goes. It is pretty rough being ADHD with such a sensitivity to stimulants.
What is even more weird is that in college and a few years after I would drink 200mg of caffeine every single day (2x Guru [1]) and felt fine. I am not sure if to what extent this is explained by being younger and being accustomed to being anxious at the time but it is definitely both.
[1] https://www.guruenergy.com/en-us/products/guru-organic-energ...
At some point I was able to get my PCP to refill my Naltrexone subscription. Naltrexone is pretty widely known for treatment for alcoholism but the prevailing wisdom in the medical community is that it must be taken every day to prevent cravings and alcohol should not be consumed when on Naltrexone. I've heard that this way of using Naltrexone isn't any better than placebo. The TSM book[1] does a good job of explaining why this is the case: the mechanism of action is that the Naltrexone blocks the endorphin rewards from consuming alcohol, so it doesn't work if you don't drink and there is no point in taking Naltrexone without drinking.
tldr: you may be able to find a TSM specific doctor via telemedicine. Additionally, most PCP will probably prescribe Naltrexone, although you need to be mindful that they may recommend to take it every day and this is not TSM
[1] https://www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1kk/Cure%20for%20Alcoh...
Some more resources:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Alcoholism_Medication/ - a great community and how I first discovered The Sinclair Method
https://www.onelittlepillmovie.com/ - documentary on The Sinclair Method
https://youtu.be/6EghiY_s2ts - TED talk on The Sinclair Method
https://www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1kk/Cure%20for%20Alcoh... (warning: large PDF) - book about The Sinclair Method, definitely the best way to learn more, it is surprisingly simple and the first few chapters cover everything but you may find yourself reading on because there's some interesting case studies and tips on how to succeed
For more information, see https://www.reddit.com/r/Alcoholism_Medication/, or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EghiY_s2ts, or https://www.dropbox.com/s/60fs7gmvbyzs1kk/Cure%20for%20Alcoh... (warning: large pdf)
FWIW, I find that if I have a boring task and attempt to use cannabis to power through it, half of the time I complete the task with vigor and then other half of the time I do literally anything else. So my story is as similar to yours as those saying that cannabis leads them to be anything but productive.
As someone that is a heavy longtime user and recently diagnosed ADHD (there is a deep relationship between cannabis/substances and ADHD), I did find during the pandemic that smoking cannabis prior to writing software made it feel more productive. Given I couldn't prove that I was really more productive, and there are other costs, I decided against using it at least for my full time job. This is all to say, YMMV with cannabis or any psychoactive substance.
edit: actually looks like the same show is on both platforms