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people visiting a nude beach are voluntarily nude. people have a right to not to have their body exposed without their consent.
>not be a problem asking for our attention to solve it.
it isn't a problem asking for a solution, because a solution would be a tool used to violate privacy
Telling somebody that they're ignorant or not trying hard enough isn't exactly constructive. But neither is digging up studies trying to convince people that they can't achieve some level of fitness. It's science, but somebody else's failure doesn't determine yours. Again, common sense.
You need to examine your life and figure out what factors contribute to your weight gain. Is that already unreasonable?
edit: looks like people are talking about that too.
I think when we alias numbers, we're not necessarily representing them cognitively.
Relevant conversation with Yann Lecun:
"everything you know about X is wrong"
I was trying to clarify the scope of your comment "infringes on the right of others to not be regularly subject to spontaneous (or not) conversations that people frequently get emotional over."
I've been living in the United States for over 20 years and I genuinely have never experienced/felt such a strong standard for public conversation, even amongst groups of people from different generations. It doesn't represent my experience at all. In fact, there are cultural memes involving older generations who absolutely do not follow this standard. It really paints the group that you're describing as extremely fragile, and I think that's also an implication of the article.
"If you think that you have a right to behave how you wish" No, I don't think I said that, actually.
And you're right. I've had to make lifestyle changes where I avoid certain venues. I don't have fast food. I've had chips maybe a handful of times in the past several years. You can call it a battle, but I wouldn't say I'm miserable on a daily basis. I just got used to it.
Using drugs to improve your quality of life is incredibly valuable. At the same time, I still believe that lifelong dependence to drugs should be avoided. I anticipate negative societal and psychological outcomes in the future. But I have to run.
Well we're all technically different, so nobody knows what it's like to be you. So literally no advice or data can actually apply to you. Those scientific studies studied other people, right? Cool world we've created.
If you listen to nutrition gurus, you'll hear claims like "food X contains chemical Y and chemical Y is either itself toxic or metabolizes to something toxic, therefore you shouldn't eat X". I promise you I can find videos where somebody has found something bad about spinach and will try to convince you not to eat it. It's a bad way to reason.
Identifying individual biological pathways isn't enough to make (dietary) prescriptions. Often, the metabolites of the food aren't produced in high enough quantities to make a measurable effect (on health, or this case behavior). This kind of thing has to be studied at the level of behavior.
I'm not special. Look at his post. He quickly dismisses the idea of personal discipline and asserts that keeping weight off is "basically impossible" in the first two lines. What kind of bullshit is that? Because we don't know what it's like? Well I do.
Nice one. I think it's a bad idea to be dependent on drugs for something you can achieve on your own, especially if the drugs don't have a long term safety profile. Pretty sure I read somewhere that they don't. If you're going to use them for a short period of time, that's fine. Don't say nobody warned you if that doesn't pan out though (or worse, you have a bad drug response).
I mention this because I feel like you need somebody who has gone through the experience to actually have credibility in the conversation, to tell you that personal discipline is a real thing that can achieve results. I think it's ridiculous how quickly you dismissed the parent post.
Most people are full of contradictions and often carry beliefs that might be seen as controversial (perhaps in hindsight). Maybe it's not appropriate to lump all controversial beliefs into one, but I think a small part of the problem is that we identify ourselves as being morally pure as a way to avoid having hard conversations.
I don't think the poster is making that point. Did you see the response?
Look: https://news.ycombinator.com/reply?id=41805263&goto=item%3Fi...
How does this transfer to any other situation involving group communication? Do the people on this board have a right not to see emotional conversations? Not rocking the boat has a place in professional settings, but I don't think people have a right, in general, to not see emotion.
I agree that, to a certain extent, it can be socially unpleasant. But saying it's a right is too much.
This is absolutely not how a lot of people operate.
I'm obviously exaggerating, but it's related to our political discourse in society at large. Open up reddit, read some of the political commentary, and try not to vomit in your mouth. People don't engage with ideas, or each other. I can't tell you how often I see people respond with things they assume the other person thinks instead of just talking about what was said. People in this thread have mentioned how difficult it is to untangle beliefs, assumptions, etc and that's true. No, politics isn't about ideas, it's about group identity. A consequence of this is that the conversation can quickly become reactive and emotional. It's easy to get othered (and this can have severe consequences) and we're apparently very aware of how the other necessarily impacts our life in a negative way (via social media and the major news outlets).
Part of the problem is that we've normalized this degree of sensitivity. I also wouldn't be surprised if our news feeds were incentivized to spread divisive beliefs.
I can imagine that if you're getting that much support while you're in high school, you'll most likely always succeed in academics. Meanwhile we have political conversations with people who can't even acknowledge inequity.
This isn't to say that wealth is sufficient for talent and great work. I don't want to take away from anyone's achievements. But it definitely seems necessary sometimes...
You can find plenty of information online with details regarding its conflict of interest with manufacturers, how it makes money, etc.