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Sure apologies for linking a preprint.

The study I linked earlier went on to be published in Lancet which is a super top tier medical journal. Here is the link: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6...

Also I find that the NHS over in England collects great data and personally I use them as a primary learning body for covid.

It won't let me reply to this "criticalthinker" guy anymore, but I will post this for anyone looking at this before they get sucked into these purposeful lies.

Just go read what he linked me to supposedly support his argument:

[1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33909660/

This paper states that covid will mutate due to "neutral variation" and evade the vaccine. This isn't a point against the vaccine, this is just stating the obvious that eventually we will need a different vaccine. The paper also recommends a combination of vaccination and therapeutics. "trategies for viral elimination should therefore be diversified across molecular targets and therapeutic modalities. "

They then go on to disclose that the authors have ownership in a therapeutics company.

[2]The second link he provided also recommends that we receive booster shots and again doesn't support the anti vax argument. Go actually read it if you want. https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/long-term-evoluti...

These people are grifting.

We get flu shots to reduce the incidence of the flu in the population so that we don't kill a bunch of old people a decade too early.

You're purposefully ignoring a piece of the "critical thinking" so that you can be anti-science.

I'm very disappointed in the anti science comments on HN as of late.

Link the study or delete your comment.

Looks like we responded to him in basically the same way at the same time. I had a check of his profile and he has a comment claiming that: "

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All evidence shows it to be the other way around, the vaccinated are far more dangerous to the unvaccinated than vice versa, it isn't even close. Leaky vaccines create more virulent and deadlier viruses in the unvaccinated.

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Looks like he is just an antivaxxer spreading unscientific lies.

Last medical paper I read was using a cohort of 20,000 people. This paper concluded that natural covid immunity doesn't last forever. Median time to reinfection was 160+ days.

Is there new research or something? I keep seeing people talk about this and no one ever provides a source.

source: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.13.21249642v...

Additionally here's a bunch of data that makes me doubt your point about naturally immunity being superior to vaccines:

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/covid-19-vaccine-breakthrou...

We pretty much can play with vaccines forever.

Every healthy responsible person gets a flu shot every single fall, we already do this and no one complains about the long term flu plan.

You might be allowing the current discourse to knock your reasoning off track. Not trying to attack you, it's easy to get carried away with something so impactful to all of us.

Those aren't equivalent.

Preventing obesity is *very* hard, or we wouldn't have obese people. Who actually WANTS to be obese?

Preventing your ICU trip due to covid is as easy as driving to the pharmacy once or twice and spending 20minutes there.

It's easier than grocery shopping.

Right now kids are in danger because they are getting covid and RSV at the same time. RSV is surging in many areas of the USA.

There are NO ICU beds in Tennessee.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/08/19/tenn...

Here is the Tennessee reporting. NO ICU beds.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/health/2021/08/19/tenn...

I agree. If you can't afford to pay wages people will accept, then you don't have a viable business.

Your overall point might be correct, but your old people one is just wrong.

Old people aren't super muscular because you need high levels of testosterone to support musculature, and it naturally declines with age and particularly tanks when you are elderly.

100%. If you look at productivity weekly instead of daily it always pays to have deload time daily, eat correctly, sleep 8 hrs, and get a workout in on a regular basis!

Perhaps, but the guy had been teaching these courses for at least 10 years so he really had it all down. I mean he taught almost completely from his brain.

Total math teacher too, his university email is so full if you email him it just bounces back.

That house was made to sell. If someone bought it, then the builder accomplished their goal. Unfortunately...

Everything is made for optimal profit, not optimal function.

Could you give me some productivity tips? I would love to become better at managing my time. I seem to always be able to fill my 40 hours and still feel like I didn't accomplish enough.

I'm a SWE working on a small team.

Thankfully for me, my college Calculus professor(in USA) banned calculators for Calc 1 and 2(the two required Calc classes for a computer science degree at my public university).

He was heavily avoided by many and "special" for doing so. I found it easier to forego the calculator as it allowed us to focus on methods and how/why over just moving large numbers around.

I graduated high school in the USA in the past decade. I was never taught Calculus. I wasn't even very good at algebra.

Eventually I went on to get a math minor in college to go with my computer science degree, but I didn't even learn the first thing about Calculus until I was 21.

Math and Science education in the USA is really really abyssal until college, and then it's sink or swim.

Gitlab I think.

At my job they're leaning into WFH. We are full WFH since March 2020 with no end in sight, with higher ups reported to be satisfied with our performance and the new job listings all listed as *remote available*.

Some people really dislike it at work and appear to come into zoom calls from the office. Most of that group really appreciates how empty the office is though.

I also work for an employer that isn't a "tech player" and you wouldn't think we are more forward than Apple on this, but here we are.

I agree. Long term it is advantageous for everyone if our society is more fair, because if you keep pushing the lower class down a little further each generation eventually they will indeed have enough of it.

I think that instead of framing it as fairness--which seems to agitate those who were born with monetary advantages, this conversation should be re-framed to focus on societal efficiency.

It is inefficient to shoehorn people to the top because their parents were at the top. The people at the top should be our highest achievers and not our decent achievers who were born with rich parents.

The way our society is structured we will find ourselves much better off in a few generations if we can devise a system where each persons potential is given a proper environment to flourish and where each high potential person is given a carrot to chase that isn't unachievable.

Edit:

Speaking of carrots to chase. It's looking more and more like the wealth of millennials(and I suppose zoomers?) long term will be very very determined by their inheritance(if they are so lucky to have one lol) and less so by their hard work in life.

This is likely the cause of the number of people under 40 who seem to be "opting out". It's very difficult to get to the supposed goal unless you are a high achiever. The carrot is very much too far away and this is another societal inefficiency. We would have a much more dedicated workforce if we made it possible to get "carrots".

Yes it's real! In rural cities in the USA many people only have 1-2mbps speeds still!

My family in rural areas are waiting and hoping for 5G internet to save them, but I live in a rather hilly region and many are worried their homes won't get good 5G service!

$80 USD for 1000mbps in Tennessee, USA. Unfortunately I have the best internet of all my friend groups and will be moving across town to a newer home soon where the best I can get is 50mbps for $50 USD.

It is completely random what internet speeds you can get. The only constant is the monopoly of Comcast & AT&T.

Just on this topic--dedicated napping spaces might be the single most powerful dollar for productivity boost you can buy an in-office dev team.

Oh and noise cancelling headphones.

Kaytranada on every government service!

That's with covid issues as well! Very encouraging.

This is a great point. I'm American and my girlfriend and I make close to the same amount of money. We have recently decided to live(buy a home etc.) off of just one salary and completely invest the other salary because the penalty for getting sick and losing your job in the USA is so high that we don't feel comfortable spending most of both salaries.

ALSO, this is only possible because we each make 150% of the median household income in our city. Our country is awful for the average person, it really really is.

Oh yeah forgot to mention the combined $90,000 in debt we have in student loans(so we can get these jobs) and car payments(so we can drive and exist in society).

It's just such a stupid way to organize a society...

To drive this point back to the conversation at hand--these American pressures are what drive the mindset that dominates most of any English speaking dev forum.

Just want to touch on the last sentence--putting a mask on once you feel sick can still lower the amount of people you give a virus to since you're lowering the number of days that you are easily transmitting.

I think wearing a mask when you feel sick and possibly masking up en masse for certain seasons of the year, if it has a measurable impact, is worth it. I really don't mid wearing my mask so if Nov., Dec., and Jan. I have to wear a mask in stores I really don't care at all.