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Upvote mad on this. This is exactly what I have been saying to all of my friends who quitted social media. One of aspects was also the narrow view social media creates for bipolarizing spectrum of one's opinions using extremistic news and probably fakes news.

Given that it is an OS from a China-fund company, I would hesitate to use it as much as I can away from surveillance.

It is almost guarantee that backdoor will be there.

Most East Asian cities are very walkable, because of the dense population.

Some great examples, Seoul, Tokyo, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, etc

Sure, so it's the same for the kids. We never expect a 7-yrs old mature enough to make such judgement. But the choice is still there with their parents. Does that choice exist for these folks in Xinjiang Uyghur regions? Is it free to join/leave or is it forced?

Education is a choice. You can choose to be educated by religious schools, or going to public schools.

To those in Xinjiang Uyghur regions, this is not a choice.

"Transformation camps" on your thoughts and how you think. Hmm.. That sounds wrong to me.

Upvote this! Just because other regimes had done something bad, it does not remove the fact that this is also bad. 2 wrongs don't make it a right.

Mark probably mix up the cultural differences between China and rest of the world.

I wouldn't think this is a product problem, but a low-hanging fruit technical problem that they can just address it if they had enough demand for this. This is also not a new problem in this space. And it has been done in the past.

But the DNA matching is just revealing the facts though which is true. Emotionally it is hard, but it's just revealing a fact.

Even the reaction is within 0.1s for the machine, you cannot brake and stop immediately. This is physics, and a mechanical problems.

Please remove the software mindset when looking into this.

Don't Uber already provide that? I saw it in NYC (maybe they pick few cities now to test this out)

https://help.uber.com/h/3abcbae1-132b-42a9-8277-0dab00fa3879

Good to know! But I am more curious for the data cover every self-driving vehicles, not just about Uber. It could be Uber is doing worse, but my ask is whether we (as an industry) is still on a right direction for this "bold bet".

I think the self-driving initiative is not about beating the human counterpart at launch, but at least on par with the performance done by human. That itself has huge value in efficiency and saving time.

Slowly with many AI-driven vehicles on the road, we can "optimized" for a better performance on safety and other issues.

Statistically speaking, I am curious to know the data on these areas: - number of miles driven per fatal accident on self-driving - number of miles driven per fatal accident on a human driver.

It is important to know whether our machine is now doing worse/better than our counter-part and this means a lot for our self-driving initiatives.

> It has to offer a superset of your wants, her wants, his wants, etc or you will love it, but they will go elsewhere

So that's bloated then ?

What's bloated about it?

Let see... - Why do I care about reading someone's life moment on an IM? WhatsApp also tried this and another reason I think it is now heading to the "dark side" - Why do I said... Request a Didi on an IM ? - Why would I care to use it to pay for something? I just want to message someone. - Why do I even care about these features? I just want to message someone... - In fact, why do I care about so much eye-killing gifs/emoji

An IM is an IM. But then I grew up in the western world, so my opinions might not apply to everyone. But I am sure as hell share someone's opinion on this.

Is it bloated? Hell yeah, can it still make a case that Chinese general population would prefer bloated single-app? Sure, but that doesn't mean I like it.

Hmm... I don't know, but my app is less heavyweight on said WhatsApp than a bloated WeChat. But that's my opinion.

When I send a message, why does it need to be so bloated. I just wanna send a message. Does being lightweight a feature too?

I am curious what type of "traveling visa" was that, because a tourist visa don't work for me. Also Chinese government change policies all the time and rollout instantaneously. Whatever works 3-months ago don't mean it works now.

Have you seen people type Chinese in a T9 keyboard? My wife grew up in China and typed using that method and faster than her English typing.

I just return from a trip to China and yes I carried a 10yrs China visa to open a bank with Bank of Construction in Guangdong province. No, the bank's front desk refuse it and said they cannot accept foreign passports.

Having a "work" visa is possible though.

Please stop spreading rumours about China when it's not true.

Fair enough, but does WhatsApp put out any market in China? The strategy is a completely different approach. WhatsApp simply building 1 product for the entire globe where WeChat just focus on 1 monoculture.

Have WhatsApp spent effort to build "that product" to China, and they would fail on it.

And I don't see WhatsApp is super pissed that they lost this 1.3B market anyway.

And in a hindsight, it is probably better for WhatsApp to not build "that app" for China. Imagine spending all those resources, money into a product and simply turn off by China government overnight. It's a big loss for that investment.

TL;DR do not enter China if you haven't yet finished conquered the entire world.

> unless it's a credit card

Nope, that exception don't even existed in Alipay/WeChat Pay as well :-) Being foreigner in China sucks.

Well, I think it's not just simply "protectionism", but because the Chinese government really want to enforce censorship on all digital products used by people living in China.

When Google refuse to follow that, they are just simply not allowed. I have seen foreign companies built products in China but they all have to agree to these censorship laws.

Disclaimer: Chinese too. :-)

Webview everything? :-)

Please also point out that that "linked bank account" is currently only work for China banks. If you are using foreign banks, no luck. :-(

And every significant transaction required you to provide ID, which is currently supporting China ID, some apps do have support for foreign passports, but do you want to share your passports to those China apps?

> This is not accurate. Along with WeChat and QQ, people can freely use Skype and MSN messenger in China. The success behind WeChat and QQ relies on their rich features, fast iterations, etc.

Really?

I am not sure about Skype which is not even a strong contender anymore in our mobile generation, but WhatsApp is definitely blocked by China[1]. And MSN was dead long ago.

[1]: https://techcrunch.com/2017/09/25/whatsapp-blocked-in-china/

Sure, but I don't think human is very good at judging his/her own emotion on a simple yes/no question on happiness. :-)

Are you talking about how much employees made on GAF (Google, Amazon, Facebook) or how happy are their employees?

I think Amazon is bit special as Jeff Bezos was one-of-a-kind that can continue letting Amazon losing money until recently and public investors were OK to keep putting money on them.

As for Google, Facebook, I don't think they are relevant because they were already dominating the market. Most businesses out there aren't in that position, and certainly not In-N-Out.

Unless there's an agreed methodology on how to measure that "happiness" in the workforce with good science backing it, then sure. But for so many years, I think human never reach that consensus.