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wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
the logic is “mic is on” + “process using mic is called [zoom/google/etc]” and done locally
wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
Bummer performance is a problem for ya. We've worked on it a ton over the past year or two and generally performance should be much better across the board. Feel free to email me (username @ makenotion.com) if you have example pages that are slow you're willing to share. thanks!
wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
I think this has to do with Chromium x MacOS -- https://issues.chromium.org/issues/346505950

https://x.com/rauchg/status/1846590635677004039?s=46&t=kVfjh...

wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
There's no network traffic monitoring, not sure what the support agent is talking about -- I think they misunderstood something.

See here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Notion/comments/1i4ypl8/comment/m8o... for info about the "local network access" permission

wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
your OS shows a microphone icon when apps are recording audio — when you use the app, you should see that when recording is on during the meeting transcription and off otherwise
wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
thanks, will fwd to team

you're talking about the desktop notification in particular, right?

wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
FWIW, you can verify when any apps are recording microphone input by the OS's microphone indicator. I think Windows, Mac, and Linux all have one.

(edit: see what @jitl said)

wustep··on Tell HN: Notion Desktop is monitoring your audio and network
Hey!

1. Notion records audio only during your use of the Meeting Notes feature. Here are the docs: https://www.notion.com/help/ai-meeting-notes

2. Notion desktop app has notifications about meetings that ask you if you want to use Meeting Notes, it recognizes this by detecting that your microphone is on (i.e. it does not listen to audio coming from your microphone). This feature is a setting in preferences btw, under Notifications > Desktop meeting detection notification.

source: I work for Notion

wustep··on ADHD linked to evolutionary success in ancient humans
Direct link to paper: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rspb.2022.258...
wustep··on ADHD linked to evolutionary success in ancient humans
IMO — it generally seems net positive for many folks to have positive sentiment towards a diagnosis and neurological profile they can’t change, especially when it’s such a large part of their internalized identity.

There are definitely cons to this, but I think “it’s a superpower, especially when directed correctly, with some downsides and quirks” is probably a better mentality than “it’s a debilitating condition that I can’t do anything about,” which can lead to negative self-fulfilling outcomes.

(personally I think something in the middle of my adhd — something like: “this has radically shaped my life in ways both positive and negative, and figuring out how to shape my life around it rather than treat it as a depressing diagnosis seems good for me.”)