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"Small" being relative, of course, it was Columbia, MO. I graduated from the University of Missouri.

Let's be fair though. I knew one person, personally and closely, that went to school full time, worked a full time job and raised two girls (they weren't babies or toddlers though) and managed to get a 3.0+ GPA, but that doesn't mean everybody can do it.

I tried (not the raising the girls bit), with a full time job and going to school full time and my grades plummeted for that semester (which caused me to have to retake a couple classes and delayed my graduation a semester).

Even in a Mid-Missouri small town, making 7-8 bucks an hour working ~24 hours a week, it wasn't enough to survive, let alone survive AND pay "cash" for classes and books.

wow, really? 240k for a DPT? My wife graduated the last year her school offered the Masters program, 2007 I believe with something like 7k in loans. Granted, her parent's pretty much covered everything, somehow.

I walked away with my CS degree (CIS, really) with ~80k in debt in 2008.

Average income varies I think, starting salary for her in 2007 was 45k, but that was Mid Missouri. Here in the Seattle area, it's a bit higher, and as a manager of a clinic (also practicing PT) it's close to twice that. I think as a non manager, 70k is about right here though.

Well, not necessarily. It's the most calorie dense, perhaps, but not always the most satiating.

For instance, the best index put together so far lists potatoes as the most satiating. And the number two is a very lean fish.

[0] - (pdf) http://www.ernaehrungsdenkwerkstatt.de/fileadmin/user_upload...

Also the Missoula Floods[0], though it's possible nobody was really around, and if there was, probably not many ( assuming humans started migrating ~18,000 years ago, it's possible some were there)

[0]-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

Everybody has their own preferences and all but I don't personally consider

>(cold, snowy winters,

as an ideal climate. My Dad's side of my family is from Boston, so while I've never lived there, I have been there from time to time (usually in the summer) and they didn't seem that mild to me. Must like the Summers I was used to in the Midwest (which is [just] one reason I left the Midwest).

I gotta be honest, if I were the target audience, this would be a turn off for me. A confirmation re-type is no big deal and is kind of expected, as it's the norm. Also it's just not secure. I don't know about you, but I often have to type in my password in front of people. Or during presentations. Maybe you'll say the login field using type=password (I admit I didn't look), but I'd say that it is still concerning.

Yep, it's the overcast weather that bugs some people. The locals here (I live in the Seattle area but am a transplant) tend to like to go with the complaints and add to it with exaggeration to keep people less interested in moving here.

I don't mind it at all. In Missouri, the winters do have more sun, but much, much colder and snowy/icy so you don't want to go out anyway. Here I can go for a walk/run/bike/hike or whatever and it's mostly mid to upper 40's (F) all winter with a few exceptions either direction (some 70 degree days in Feb, for instance).

Huh, I think that list needs to be updated. I've seen an article on Omaha, NE being Silicon Prairie, as well as Kansas City (MO) and St. Louis. I'm sure if I noticed a few not on there, there's probably a bunch more.

Isn't that true with all bridges though? You don't have to pay for each use, but you sure paid for the construction and potentially the upkeep (or are likely to have paid).

It's simple. Not easy, IMO. I have quite a bit experience with it and it still can be a challenge, and it is drop dead easy to gain weight.

See my post above. I have experience both in weightlifting and losing weight (not a whole lot, but 50lbs, which isn't something to sneeze at).

If you actually have experience losing significant weight and you think it's a cakewalk, I think I'd accuse you of being disingenuous.

I disagree with losing weight being easy. It's easy in "theory," and if you only have 10-20lbs to lose it's pretty straightforward.

Enter human psychology, "real life" (stress, kids, a job, social life, etc), and the fact that maybe you have 80lbs to lose. That, at a healthy pace, can take a full year to lose. Or 80 weeks (nearly a year and a half) if you go one pound a week. That's a long time to stick to a "diet."

That's why most people need to focus on a lifestyle change. A Diet implies short term in most people's mind, and that's why most people revert. Yay, I lost 80lbs, now let's start eating donuts for breakfast, McDonalds for lunch, and pizza for dinner again. It's trivial to gain weight. It's harder, much harder, to lose it.

FWIW, I'm a weightlifter. I've been as much as 50lbs overweight, lost that weight and kept it off for many years. I've also gone through the bodybuilding "bulking/cutting" cycle that was popular for so long (and maybe still is, I don't do that anymore), so I'm quite familiar with gaining 20-30lbs and cutting down again in cycles. So I know weightloss is straightforward and simple, but I totally disagree that it's easy.

Yep, same here. It looks pretty JavaScript-y, which is familiar at least. I think this is a good move on Apple's part.

It does seem to have promise. I didn't catch all of the details, was there a demo? Was it able to say, switch a call over to your mac with the ability to do something like FaceTime?

I thought this was related to Mozilla's Brick[0] and got more excited than I should have.

Still, looks nice though!

[0] - http://mozilla.github.io/brick/

> i mean honestly there are multiple existing Hip Hop Billionaires

Not according to Forbes[0] there aren't.

[0]-http://www.forbes.com/forbesfive/

Well, my max deadlift comes pretty close to 500lbs and I have been lifting for far longer than a mere year and I'm sorry to say that you are wrong.

You don't need to go to a trainer. I learned everything I know from reading, watching videos and having my form critiqued. It's actually better to go to a good powerlifting gym and make friends with some strong people, but you don't NEED to. At least not until you get to pretty elite levels.

In fact, going to a the typical trainer at the gym is a waste of money, effort, and is MORE likely to get you hurt (like rhabdomyolysis for instance). Half of those guys will just have you balance on a bosu ball while doing some arbitrary movement, and rake in your hundred+ dollars an hour. You might go home more sore than a 30 minute lifting session, but you effectively wasted your time, and probably simply decreased the likelyhood you'll even go back.

No, lifting weights isn't some magical or super technical thing (unless you are doing Olympic lifting, then, then I'd suggest getting a coach, not a trainer).

Edit: FWIW, if you can find a trainer that can DL 500lbs that is at a regular gym, I'd be liable to eat my hat. Now show me that same trainer that actually trains his clients with a routine for beginners as good or better than Starting Strength, and I'll eat my hat without ketchup.

This seems more reasonable. I probably still wouldn't take said job, but certainly more likely to do so than if I were expected to Develop and meet timelines without taking support into effect (not the case at my last job - which was odd because I wash hourly).

I agree entirely. If I were forced to do support calls 6 hours a day, I'd rather not be expected to make those 6 hours up developing off hours. Especially to meet deadlines that don't take the support into account.

Bug reports do that just fine though. I don't need to physically run the person through the login process, a report or series of bug reports can clue me in just fine.

My previous job required quite a bit of customer support at the beginning, which tapered down to almost none at the end (out of necessity). I just couldn't get my development done.

It was almost always hosting type help, and development slowing down was a huge issue.

I learned a lot, but primary that I'm not interested in doing that kind of support at all. I'll simply turn down jobs that require it of me, and it's something I ask in interviews. Some personnel support is fine, and working with the UX department doing testing is welcome (and encouraged on my part), but answering calls to help people set up their outlook or helping them reset their password? No way. Not my cup of tea.

Yep, lifers, that is indeed what they were called. My last gig before I decided to go to college was a "corregated board" factory. 100+ degree (F) temps (pretty hot in the winter too), second shift type work (printing and cutting), and I played the "points" game with sick days/leave. Union job, so us noobs got stuck with the manditory overtime if the older guys didn't want it. You could use points to not have to work over, but you only got so much. I played it badly and they let me go. I was signed up for classes that next day.

I know it makes me sound like a bad person, but it wasn't even the effort or boredom of stacking boxes, but the dead looks in employees eyes that had been there for decades. I didn't want to end up in a loveless job. I love what I do now and would do it even if I were independently wealthy (well, not put up with PMs, etc), and that's more than I ever hoped to achieve while working in a factory or warehouse.

What do you mean by "aspire to work in factories?" When your job prospects are Fast Food, other Restaurant, Retail, or Factory / Warehouse job, is it "aspiring to work in a factory?"

I ask because I worked in Factories and Warehouses before going to college and becoming a programmer. Working in those places wasn't a "lifelong dream" but they were better than almost ALL alternatives for what skills I had. Better as in pay, benefits and not having to deal with people(customers) directly.

Not to detract from your point that highly skilled college graduates aren't flocking to factory jobs, just pointing out that those of us that have been there actually have actively sought those jobs out. I guess you could say I was "aspiring to work in a factory." Hell, when the average job everywhere else was 6-7 dollars an hour, a 15 dollar an hour factory job was a hot commodity.

Been reading this one on my Kindle app, but it seems very "entry level" so far. You know of any good Intermediate to Advanced JS books out there? I have Test Driven JavaScript Development by Christian Johansen that I've dug into a bit, but have yet to finish (it's got some more "advanced" stuff I guess, currying, etc).

I've got this right at the top of my wish list. Got a list of other books I gotta finish first though, lol:

Code Complete 2, The Web Application Hacker's Handbook, Algorithms in a Nutshell, and Code.

Not to mention an Arduino book - but I'll probably get Effective Java and read it first.

Yeah, my alma mater looks to be be right between 10 and 11k a year for tuition (28 credit hours a year assumed), and books and living expense puts that even higher.

I ended up with around 80k in loans, but I was dumb about my living expenses (I went to college in my late 20s, and had a certain living standard I wanted to maintain, which was a mistake).

Ugh, I feel old. CERN apparently put up the first website when I was in middle school.

You should check out this[0] Neil Gaiman article about the importance of reading (Libraries, really, but touches on reading fiction specifically)

[0] - http://www.theguardian.com/books/2013/oct/15/neil-gaiman-fut...

I saw a Gary Crossley dealership, but how did you find out what dealership he owns?

I'm from Independence, but currently in Tacoma, WA. I have family there though so really interested in getting them involved.