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I can't find that story online, but it has a similar ending vis-a-vis the alien's decision.

So, scheme style these days is all about pure functions, tail calls and continuations. To think about it, that really is setting it apart from common lisp.

As for finalizing arbitrary objects, please see http://community.schemewiki.org/?guile-guardian

I agree on the speed part. But guile 2 is getting better. The reason guile cannot be as blazing fast as say gambitc is their need to inter-operate with all sorts of C code. Native threading included.

> Integration with C (and C++ for that matter)

Guile does it better. You can use shared memory threads in guile without any penalty. Atmost you have to allow for the garbage collector to run when inside FFI functions. But that is a small price to pay in case you need to use multiple parallel-concurrent threads with a single heap.

Guile was built with FFI in mind and has an impressive history. Just take a look at guile gnome bindings.

> Speed and Simplicity

Guile 2 is extremely fast. Not as fast as LuaJIT, but it no reason it won't get there. As for simplicity, take a look at the partial evaluator in trunk of guile 2.

> Education

Guile is good old scheme.

> Functional

Can't get more functional than scheme :)

> Everything is a Table

Well, almost everything is a pair in guile. Vectors and hash-tables are trivially available. Though I recommend to sticking to functional programming in scheme style.

> Consistent

As before, can't get more consistent than scheme.

> Portable

Guile is available on n900. So there.

To continue, guile has continuations (delimited or otherwise), and macros (hygienic or otherwise), both of which are effectively missing in lua.

And guile offers all of this while supporting native threading with a single heap. Sweeet.

Where did Gosling say that? I remember reading that AWT was a botched job because they had very little time to ship out a UI toolkit. They replaced it with Swing later.

And if you think Swing also sucks, then try developing swing apps in groovy. Java language sucks even in SWT UIs.

Microsoft had run huge ads on how LSE was using .NET and Windows in critical financial applications. Within a year LSE had suffered crashes in the same critical areas.

Bad to reply to own comment, but can't edit it anymore.

The same can be said of a fork. It will not be allowed to run the Java test suite (I forget the name) and certify itself Java.

Edit : Typo

It is a from scratch implementation of the JVM. And is backed by IBM AFAIK.

Though the Visual works contribution to VM technology cannot be discounted. And it is owned by IBM. So probably IBM and Oracle will not use these patents against each other.

Edit : grammar. Also forgot to mention that the ARM backend run on n900, my precious.

Some professors are able to teach you complex things in such simple terms that it damn well blows you away. I remember being tought van der walls equation's proof using some very basic concepts and the taylor series. I can't find that simple a proof on wikipedia now, and unfortunately I have forgotten much of physics. SICP is also a good example of a good teacher making complex problems simple.

Not everybody thinks about you when choosing the people they want to live with. You argue like a conservative asshole berating a bunch of hippies for choosing their own way of life.

> What I'm saying : there should be no laws against this type of thing, and no laws saying you should do it. Entirely personal choice all round.

That is entirely upto the people living in those subuebs. If they decide that you should drive your car around rather than through their suburb, then I don't see how it violates your personal freedom. Next you will be bitching about congestion charges.

The Iraq invasion by USA happened in this very century.

So when My friends and I talked incoherently while bing drinking, year after year of college, we wallowed in "infinite, recursively self-referential filth."? Wow, I didn't know my generation was that unique.

If you have a phone with such an app, you can try it out on images here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QR_Code

Sorry, but the vegetarian you talk of is doing it wrong.

My primary source of proteins is pulses. Especially the red kidney beans contain the same amount of protein as chicken, 24 gm out of 100 gm.

Reference:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicken_(food)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_bean#Red_or_kidney_beans

In particular hard cheese, which takes a lot of milk to produce, can have a bigger footprint per kilo than chicken.

This is super stupid. Hard cheese contains more than double the calories of chicken. And nobody in their right minds will consume hard cheese as the main food item.