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1, The first wikipedia article (the first link) I referenced was not to take it as a source, but to point out that India's unilateral statement is not convincing enough to bring consensus to the table. You missed my point.
2, The second wikipedia article (the fourth link) I referenced is something that all sides already agree on, and is adequately sourced. There's nothing wrong with using Wikipedia entries to give quick access to information to people.
3, I think you may have misunderstood something, HN is not an academic journal, and you would fully expect people to cite Wikipedia entries all the time[1].
> Nepal was like a brother, we had everything to share with them.
This was what India did in 2015: "Nepal border blockade: Hospitals running out of drugs"[2]. And you are calling "Nepal was like a brother"?
> Are you really denying the expansionism by China? If you only care about hyperlink to so called 'International Credible News Sources they're not free from Foreign interference either.
Please don't misinterpret a request for a reliable source as a denial.
I never said that the sources had to be from so called "International Credible News Sources".
After all this time, you have not even been able to give news sources from the mainstream credible media in India's ally, the United States, that support India's claims. (Not just quotes, media also quote the Chinese side)
You keep broadening the scope of the discussion. But those "backgrounds" you introduced, true or not, add little credibility to the India statement you support.
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Let's end this discussion. At first I replied to "perryizgr8" just wanted to know why he asserted that "Chinese soldiers kill our people on the border", which sounds like they were killing civilians for no reason. By his/her reply, I understood that he/she was just blindly listening to his/her own government. The phrase "kill our people" is just his/her way of adding fuel to the fire, which is unintentionally or intentionally misleading.
[1]: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...
[2]: https://www.cnn.com/2015/11/10/asia/nepal-border-blockade-dr...
Of course every Indian source stated that India were on the side of justice, just like Chinese media also gave a bias in favor of China. The thing is, there's no way to know which side is telling the truth. None of their sources can be considered credible on this.
You can try keeping only the "facts" as described by the Indian media in the corresponding Wikipedia entry[1] and see if others agree. My point is: You can't just assert that a unilateral statement is a fact.
> They captured few villages from neighboring country Nepal
"Nepal government says Nepal doesn't have border dispute with China"[2]
"Nepal denies claims of construction by Chinese side within its territory"[3]
Your news sources don't look that credible.
In fact, not only are there no disputes between Nepal and China, but instead there are disputes between Nepal and India.[4]
[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_China%E2%80%93India_skirm...
[2]: https://reddit.com/r/Nepal/comments/iybcbj/nepal_government_...
[3]: https://thehimalayantimes.com/nepal/nepal-denies-claims-of-c...
[4]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India%E2%80%93Nepal_border#Bor...
2. There were casualties on both sides. “Chinese soldiers kill our people“ You made it sound like Chinese soldiers killed civilians. Do you have any credible sources to back up your claim?
Here is the new result (I only run once for each case):
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│ │ │ +"Developer Tools" access │
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│ terminal │ 1.448/0.004 │ 0.016/0.004 │
├──────────┼─────────────┼───────────────────────────┤
│ iTerm2 │ 1.240/0.006 │ 0.024/0.007 │
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`1.448/0.004` means the first time it is `1.448 total`, and the second time it is `0.004 total`.(It seems I have "good" VPN/internet connection condition at this time)
> Hello
> /tmp/test.sh 0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 5.746 total
> Hello
> /tmp/test.sh 0.00s user 0.00s system 79% cpu 0.006 total
And even if I didn't connect to my VPN:
> Hello
> /tmp/test2.sh 0.00s user 0.00s system 0% cpu 1.936 total
> Hello
> /tmp/test2.sh 0.00s user 0.00s system 78% cpu 0.005 total
That's just ridiculous and unbearable.
Apple should provide a way to disable this notarization thing, and the user should still be able to enable SIP while disabling it.
additional information:
- macOS version: 10.15.4
- terminal: iTerm2 3.3.9
- didn't install any "security" software