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2,407 karma · joined May 8, 2011

Co-Founder of Turing Book. Ex BAAI. Ex Meituan. Ex-Chief Editor of CSDN.net and Programmer Magazine in China
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turingbook··on China Unveils New Native Operating System
It is still based on Linux kernel: http://translate.google.com.hk/translate?act=url&hl=en&ie=UT...

“Wu Yanjun said, COS system is more concerned about the nature of the underlying technology and security, on top of the Linux kernel, our researchers were developing for nearly ten million lines of code, can now maintain, create, publish our own version independently.”

Actually, China companies and academic institutions are developing several Linux kernel based OSes these years: OPhone from China Mobile, UPhone from China Unicom (now called Tongzhou/Coship 960), YunOS from Alibaba(famous for clashing with Google), Tianci OS from SkyWorth for TVs (there are other OSes for TVs including NGB AOS, STVOS, etc.), to name a few.

They are all struggling in making phone vendors and end users' adoption. But it is a highly risky game with high return. China is a big market. Even you juse got 1% market share, you will have tens of millions of users.

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
I do not know a lot about the things outside China. But Japan is another example that many foreign Internet companies struggle. Maybe we could add Russia. These markets have something common.

HK and Taiwan are too small market to have strong enough local team.

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
If CCP wanted to control the Internet, it should help Renmin, Xinhua, Wangfujing or China Mobile to be market leaders, not Baidu, Sina, Taobao or Tencent.

Actually except Baidu vs. Google, you can not think out other examples the government made big impact. The other competitions in Internet between Yahoo vs. Sina, eBay/Amazon vs. Taobao/JD, MSN messenger vs. QQ, are all good counter-examples.

Foreign companies can not adapt to needs from local users. That is the key. The market is the king to decide the fates of Internet companies and products in China generally. Others are important but not critical.

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
Again, you just told one side of the story.

It is true that quality of large number of universities in China is poor, but they still provide millions of Chinese teens every year the opportunities to know more about the world outside their native towns or villages. They learn a lot from Internet and classmates even nothing valuable taught in classroom. They will be more confident and be important part in make everything in China better and better.

And it is also true that China invested more and more in education. The average quality is not that good, and the efficiency is low, but there still are big positive impact on China society in general. Before the big leap in higher education, only very few teenagers can enroll the universities. The overall education level is much lower.

As for bots and zombies, it is true that the numbers especially of Weibo are a bit overstated. But the real number is still big, very big. After all China has the biggest population. The smart phones sold in China has exceeded USA last year. Most of the users will install some apps like Wechat, QQ, Weibo and Alipay, etc. So you can calculate the real numbers. The order of magnitude is the same (in hundreds of millions).

Regulation is a problem, but the government does not rule everything. You can find your ways to survive and grow. Nearly all Internet giants including Big Three (we called BAT=Baidu,Tencent, and Alibaba) in China grew from nothing, without a large bank roll or good government connection at least at the beginning.

turingbook··on Ask PG: Is HN Expired Link Eventual Fix Planned?
Why not just integrating HNSearch? That is very convenient for all users.
turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
>Then why doesn't the CCP just unblock twitter, facebook, g+, and so on?

It seems that you believe China government helped local players succeed. That is not true in general. The private local Internet companies are not the government's child. They are mostly controlled by foreign investors.

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
>If the GFW didn't block Facebook or Twitter, they would have market shares in the mainland similar to those that they have in Hong Kong and Taiwan.

They would have some market shares but not very much, just like Amazon.com is a small player and one of few foreign survivors in China although I also like its service. In the past, MSN messenger, Yahoo, Google, eBay, MySpace, to name a few, all failed in competition with local China players. That is not by chance.

As for management, the biggest problem of foreign companies is that decisions especially critical ones are always made in USA, which is normally slow and ignorant. And founders and top guys in China companies(still very young at their 20s or 30s) like Pony Ma at Tencent and Robin Li at Baidu can directly attention the specifics of key products or services even at pixel level.

Who will win?

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
The stories you told are true but just tell one side of things.

On the other side, nowadays big companies such as Sina, Tencent, 163(Netease formally) you mentioned and Alibaba, Baidu, among others all grew up from small startups without government connections at the beginning.

And more and more new startups are founded everyday, some of which will be very successful, just as in USA. Qunar and 58.com are the newest ones with market value of more than 3 bilion dollars.

As for content-based business, there are still room for startups. We have seen several new technology news websites emerging these days. Even user-generated content business is possible if you avoid risky political discussion.

turingbook··on What The Chinese Tech Industry Is Like
GFW did do something but can not explain everything. China Internet companies have their own advantages: local leaders can make agile decisions to local market need, employees are more motivated, the management structure is flatter... For example, ecommerce was not regulated much here, but Amazon and eBay were beat heavily by local competitors.
turingbook··on Ruby 2.1 Released
Chinese article on the new features with some links to the materials: http://geek.csdn.net/news/detail/4112
turingbook··on Koa – Next-generation web framework for Node.js
Which Nodejs Web framework is the most popular in production? There are so many choices: http://nodeframework.com/

It seems Express and Connect? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/3809539/choosing-a-web-ap...

turingbook··on Apache Kafka 0.8.0 released
I wrote about this release and Kafka in general in Chinese and gather some information perhaps useful for Chinese guys: http://geek.csdn.net/news/detail/3866
turingbook··on DissidentX – Censorship resistance tool by Bram Cohen
The first link incorrectly has ; with it.
turingbook··on Ask HN: I have an iOS app with 2 million downloads. What should I do?
It depends on the type of your app. Do you have IAP options?
turingbook··on What's wrong with Object-Oriented Programming and Functional Programming
It seems that the author has deleted the original article and posted a reply to critical comments from Haskell school: https://yinwang0.wordpress.com/2013/11/09/oop-fp/

And some content of the original article was posted to: https://yinwang0.wordpress.com/2013/11/16/pure-fp-and-monads...

turingbook··on Zeros in JavaScript
I met with this message as well.
turingbook··on Startup School 2013 – Live Stream
Will the videos and slides be put online thereafter? Where can I find the ones in past years?
turingbook··on Macaw – Code-savvy web design tool
According to the story by Pandodaily [1], "It’s a native OSX app, but it was built inside a customized version of Google’s Chrome browser. " I guess that it will be relatively easy to target Windows and Linux if they want.

[1] http://pandodaily.com/2013/10/17/macaw-a-kickstarter-funded-...

turingbook··on OpenStack 2013.2 ("Havana") is released
Docker is eating the world! It seems you just mentioned two big things? :)
turingbook··on Arduino Announces New Linux Boards in Collaborations with Intel and TI
The TRE design builds upon the experience of both Arduino and BeagleBoard.org, combining the benefits of both community based boards.

http://arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoBoardTre

turingbook··on Ripple is officially open source
I think it is worthy noting that one of founders is Jed McCaleb, the original developer of ed2k and MtGox.
turingbook··on Fairfax strikes $4.7-billion deal to buy BlackBerry
Interesting analysis. There is another analysis from Quartz: 0 for phone business, 1.2 billion for BBM and enterprise infrastructure, 2.8b cash, 1b for patent portfolio.

http://qz.com/127441/cheat-sheet-here-are-the-bits-of-blackb...

turingbook··on Ask HN: What are some good resources to learn how to scale web applications?
http://highscalability.com is a good start point.
turingbook··on Yandex CTO and co-founder has died
Is there any life story about Ilya? I want to write an article in Chinese about his life and contribution to technology community.
turingbook··on TypeScript 0.9 released
I wonder if there are any ugly things or traps in programming TypeScript.
turingbook··on Product > Strategy > Business Model
I translated informally into Chinese: http://geek.csdn.net/news/detail/1290
turingbook··on Alibaba Buys 18 Percent Stake in Weibo for $586 Million
It is interesting to think how social e-commerce will be like in the future. Sina Weibo and Alibaba(Taobao and Alipay) have so many individual informations.
turingbook··on Huawei is giving up the US market
An interesting guess: What if one day the government of China bans Apple, Android, Windows, Cisco, IBM and other USA brands for political or backdoor concerns?
turingbook··on RIP Mike Culbert, iOS and Newton pioneer
Thank you. In some extent, these patents are the best things left for an engineer.
turingbook··on RIP Mike Culbert, iOS and Newton pioneer
It is a pity that there is nearly nothing (articles, words, videos) on the web about this excellent engineer.
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