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I'm confused, is Colorado Care actually working in CO right now? Quick search seems to indicate that Amendment 69 has failed:

http://www.denverpost.com/2016/11/08/coloradocare-amendment-...

Just like someone with low IQ and GPA and born in the US is in, but someone with high IQ but not lucky enough to come out of a vagina in the US is out.

Ha, you haven't even seen the super-low salaries yet.

In Santa Monica, does that translate to "don't be poor"?

> Can't see the last few lasting much longer.

I believe the remaining ones are effectively TV studios for business channels, so they have a completely different purpose now.

Yes. However, I was merely applying gizmo686's criterion of a crime, "it has to be a standard that was at force at the time of the attack", to Nazis in similar fashion as (s)he applied it to Allies.

And Nuremberg trials was famous for doing precisely what gizmo686 described -- charging defendants with "crimes" that were defined as crimes after the fact. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_trials#Criticism

Yes. My point was that if atrocities against civilians in Hiroshima or Dresden were not crimes by gizmo686's logic above, then neither were Nazi atrocities, and Nuremberg and Tokyo trials were nothing but a fancy lynching.

> Keep in mind, that it has to be a standard that was at force at the time of the attack

Does that mean that Nuremberg and Tokyo trials were just a farce?

If you actually read both links I provided, you might find them interesting. Also, why shouldn't I quote r/AskHistorians when discussing historical events?

Japan was ready to surrender before they got nuked, as long as they kept the Emperor. There was literally no need to kill all those civilians.

https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/1lw9lg/seeki...

http://www.nytimes.com/2000/10/22/books/l-gore-vidal-s-ameri...

What was the point of demanding unconditional surrender when Japan was ready to surrender before being nuked, if it kept the Emperor system?

Well at least one US president actually did nuke civilians, on purpose, twice, instead of merely talking about it. Another fire bombed them. And that's even before Vietnam, Laos, Iraq, or drone assassinations where any civilian can just be labeled as non-civilian by the government without much proof or oversight.

That's my Google Maps traffic experience pretty much daily. The section of the map that I actually need NOW is all of a sudden not rendering exactly when I need it, but hey here's traffic for the rest of the city.

> French Wikipedia has a better definition: the elimination of inequality and social classes.

So "ownership of means of production" is simply the next step, an answer to an inevitable question that would arise from French Wikipedia's definition.

Socialism is when workers own their means of production. What you described isn't socialism nor communism.

All those people participated in breaking the laws they saw as unjust. From Underground Railroad in the 19th century to sitting in white-only sections in the 20th. People hiding Jews from Nazis were actively breaking the law. The founders of the United States broke the British law. Edward Snowden broke the law. Nelson Mandela broke the law. Mahatma Ghandi broke the law. The list goes on and on.

I wonder what America would have been like if slavery abolitionists, women's suffrage leaders, and Civil Rights leaders took your advice.

> We are by no means perfect, but I think nations which are able to acknowledge and learn from the mistakes of their past have a leg up on those that try to pretend everything was great.

The United States government has never acknowledged Native American genocide either.

Ukrainians who lived in Crimea got full Russian citizenship too, but I'm not sure if that makes it fair and a done deal for the rest of the Ukrainians.

But I thought my other point was more important. Most Americans are newcomers to the Americas, a few generations tops. Most Mexicans are not, and nobody really asked them before erecting new borders on their lands.

> No, they hate us for our overly zealous anti-communism that drove us to forcefully prop up dictatorships/extremist groups (Panama, Cuba, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, al Qaeda, etc.), and then vacate when things went sour.

I thought this contrast between death of Castro and Saudi Arabian king was an insightful example earlier this week: https://www.reddit.com/r/LateStageCapitalism/comments/5h2jf7...

Or just google "icebox detention" to see what's happening now, not in the 1940s.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/19/us/photos-show-conditions-...

Because former are inhuman and latter a human? The most jarring part, of course, is that most of "illegal aliens" are rural Mexicans of Native American heritage, being detained in states like Arizona, Texas, and New Mexico, on land belonging to their country not too long ago, and to their ancestors for centuries.

That's not true. There are many scenarios how one can live legally in the US for more than 6 years as a non-immigrant. E.g F-1 student visa for 4+2+4 years (Bachelors through PhD), followed by 3 years on OPT, followed by 6 years on H-1B. That's 19 years.

In addition, nobody "makes" you get a green card.

Does the same apply if you lived 7-8 years in the US in a non-immigrant status?

Yes, there are some fascinating pictures of Allied troops marching through Vladivostok in 1918. [1] The Red Scare followed that immediately, and wasn't caused by any Russian aggression towards the US. [2]

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Expeditionary_Force_S...

2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Scare

> My team has taken pains to not be that way.

But that's the thing though. Your team is not being discussed, but the entire company is. And if it feels to you that it's your team that's swimming against the current, then maybe there's a lot of truth to the general perception of the whole company.

> But there are also a number of us that have resisted the amazon way and try to actually be human.

This last sentence was such a stark contrast with the rest of your comments above, that it almost feels like a slip or a that meme with a guy blinking an S-O-S signal with his eyes.

> Perhaps it's the limited number of media outlets in Europe, or just the nature of our media, but there's a high level of healthy dissent below-the-line that I don't see on The NYT, WP etc.

Don't know about WP, but NYT has a "Readers' Picks" tab in its comments section, which was consistently very critical of NYT throughout the election cycle, especially their one-sided coverage of Clinton and Sanders campaigns. At times, it was quite surreal -- the tone and substance of most upvoted comments were in stark difference with the actual article.

> On one hand their parents and student loans are paying more money to fund the foreign exchange students and every foreign exchange student present is quite literally one local taxpayer who isn't getting an education yet is somehow supposed to pay for the system without an educated-level job.

A vast majority of foreign college students are not "exchange". They are just foreign students who pay full out-of-state tuition and don't qualify for any financial aid. That's why colleges are actively courting them as they bring in way more revenue.

I thought this was an interesting comment in a related r/bestof thread: https://www.reddit.com/r/bestof/comments/5d37lj/wikileaks_la...