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I don't think this makes much sense. The best filter is money and they're not going to go through this convoluted malarkey to limit their customers.

IMHO this is about protecting their model. If you can get a N-1 model for 1% of the N cost their business breaks down.

Unless I missed it they didn't provide any proof of this actually working. Really seems like a thing veiled advert for their product

There's also little reason to keep iterating on nukes. What we have now more than serves its purpose. With AI/LLM there's always going to be a push to one up everyone else.

Ah so terrible

A billionaire resort with 10,000 hotel rooms...

It's not all Chinese companies. It's some western companies running Chinese models.

Not any more than when one company beats out another.

They've stopped subscriptions for the most part. Companies are paying API rates for their employees.

They don't shut up about it. Profitable on inference has been the story for years.

The pricing on Open router is clear. Anthropic, OpenAI, and Google all garner a massive premium over deepseek and qwen. There's no other realistic explanation except that they're making bank.

>What happens in a few years when DeepSeek runs on the chinese chips like the Huawei Ascend at a fraction of the cost ?

Nvidia goes back to being a 100 billion dollar business and everyone else reaps the benefits of cheap tokens.

They're not any sort of bag holder. They're going to make back what they spent on these data centers in a year.

It's a fairly sweet deal for everyone involved. Anthropic/Google get to sell more tokens and xAI gets a war chest for another bite at the apple. I don't have much confidence that they'll do anything with it but that doesn't mean these deals don't make sense for them.

There's no realistic way for the music to stop. The demand for LLMs is staggering and the big providers are charging full freight for inference. They might not make back the money from training but these data centers are definitely going to be fully utilized for at least the next 5 years.

An amusing thought but I mean the potato salad deli stuff. Anything prepared on site (in a store or restaurant) doesn't need to disclose ingredients. There's no special exception for bread.

Food as a % of income declined dramatically. This chart has it at 18% in 1960 declining to ~10% today.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2020/november/average-s...

There were a ton of programs after WWII to improve the nutrition of the country. This largely meant raising calories to prevent malnutrition. And the 80s are as good a point as any other to where that succeeded.

All fresh food does not have to disclose ingredients

The value is not going down. The cost is.

Relative to the current usage demand for tokens is effectively unlimited. If the price of tokens go down people will send more tokens to compensate. We are very very far away from a cost per token where people run out of things they want to send through an LLM.

I used to boot from a USB stick

There's models for every price point. What was SOTA and stupid expensive to run a year ago is a cheap flash model today.

I don't see it. Leasing equipment and paying per seat license fees makes a lot of accounting and cash flow sense. Maybe when it gets to the point where you can run SOTA LLMs on consumer hardware. But that seems a solid decade and probably much more away.

Even then it makes more sense to rent the bigger GPU and get your answer faster.

Llama?

They don't have to be as cynical as the internets are these days. It's perfectly normal to take pride that half the phones in the world run software you wrote or that you've solved whatever problem for people.

ChatGPT has like a billion weekly users that are giving them a massive amount of data. Everyone is going to want to advertise with them.

Enterprise isn't slamming the breaks on spending. At worst they've transitioned from spending like drunken sailors to spending like mildly inebriated sailors. Every single white collar worker is still going to have an AI subscription. And for people like programmers they'll still spend $1k on them.

Of course they can. They're going to sell ads and subscriptions. Both of which are going to make bank. That their service is wildly oversubscribed and hence expensive is not an indication that they're in economic trouble.

I don't think it's really that misleading. You're buying a license and I'm hard pressed to think of some other interpretation of that.

That the license kind of sucks and comes with restrictions is the bigger problem than any inherent deception

Everybody talks about this stuff all the time

That's pretty far away from where we're at. If things do get that far it's not going to be a problem. Eventually the robots will murder us in our sleep and our worries will be over.

ChatGPT still says walk but adds:

>The main reasons to drive such a short distance would be if you're bringing the car specifically to be washed, carrying something heavy, or the weather or walking conditions make it impractical.

>If your goal is to get your car washed, you'll need the car there—so driving makes sense. If you're just going to talk to someone at the car wash or check it out, walking is probably faster.

Could you have predicted in 1920 that in 2020 that 48% of the country would stop farming and some would be programmers?