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trasz@FreeBSD.org - FreeBSD committer, Cambridge researcher, NAFO fan, 50 Cent Army member, lifelong deviationist. Likes Unix, HP calculators, and Skinny Puppy. Hates when people get killed, especially for religion and oil.

PS. To the Americans among you, the 50 Cent thing isn't really true; see https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm

Previously (as "trasz", "trasz2", spot the pattern) banned for pointing out that HN tolerates racism, and that they are lying about their moderation policies.

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trasz4··on Uncensored Models
AI wouldn't have antagonists with comparable capabilities? Why?

Also, no, individuals are not a problem. Not after Nazis, Red Khmer, and Russians.

trasz4··on U.S. Marshals Spied on Abortion Protesters Using Dataminr
>Abortion is considered immoral

Not praying as often as one should is considered immoral too. But "immorality" is not binary, and abortion tends to be quite low on the scale. Especially early abortion, which is specific to one particular branch of Christianity.

>Abortion “rights” arises from a belief system

The same one that got us other human rights, like freedom of speech. It's called humanism. It's different from religions by not being made up.

Also, note the "life from conception" fringe is a relatively recent invention: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Christian_thought_o.... Protestantism generally kept the old beliefs instead of adapting the new idea.

trasz4··on Uncensored Models
>My kids are either male or female

There's your problem - you're illiterate on that subject and are not willing to learn due to cognitive dissonance, probably because of your preexisting fringe beliefs. It's no different from being a flat earther.

trasz4··on Uncensored Models
>People who are worried about alignment issues are worried about the danger unaligned AI poses to humanity; the harm which can be done by some super-intelligent system optimizing for the wrong outcome.

Like the harm being done over the past couple of decades by economic neoliberalism destroying markets all over the western world? I wonder how did we manage to achieve that without AI?

trasz4··on Uncensored Models
4) Do you believe a "rogue super-intelligence" requires the "artificial" part?

Because from what I've seen, however you define "super intelligence", there are eg highly organised groups of people that are way closer to meeting that definition than any known software or technology.

trasz4··on Two students built an A-bomb (2003)
>For Russia/China warheads we basically have no documents, and even exterior pictures are extremely rare.

In case of Russia there's a new factor in that those weapons might not even be operable anymore.

trasz4··on Two students built an A-bomb (2003)
>I wonder if the next step - designing a thermonuclear device given an A-bomb

And then there's the theoretical possibility of designing a thermonuclear device without the A-bomb part. I remember skimming through a paper from someone from CERN about it; https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0510071.pdf is the guy, but I'm not sure that's the exact paper.

trasz4··on Two students built an A-bomb (2003)
So why was the original uncensored report Secret and not Top Secret?
trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
Sure - there definitely are Zoomers in UK, but I doubt many of them would ever recognize Target or Walmart brands.
trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>No, I suspect it's more the case that ChatGPT could generate it anno 2021

Why? I mean, why does it sound more plausible to you that it ever could, when we have countless examples of models lying (or rather hallucinating)?

trasz4··on Why are so many young Americans adopting fake British accents?
Sometimes there is a reason to mix, when the word in one language doesn't quite match the meaning you want, but in another it does. Like, for example, in Polish "security" and "safety" are the same word ("bezpieczeństwo"), so it would become weird when you're talking about the difference between them.

But I feel like this article is about something else. We don't think in terms of words, we think in terms of phrases, and when we remember those phrases it's not just their literal meaning, but also the context, and this can include the accent they were heard in.

In the ideal world we'd just play the sample that we have in the head, but we don't have that yet.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>I guess having an AI summarizing the web would lead to less incentive to create the type of SEO junk that made searching in Google so awful in the past years.

Main part of Google's business is selling infrastructure for that SEO junk, AdWords et al. Sure, you meant the _other_ SEO junk, but from AI point of view both would be noise to be separated from actual content.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>It didn't work, but it still generated it.

So neither could generate the plugin, it's just that one of them lied about it.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>Google is payed when people leave the page via a click on an ad

Not really. The click rate is iirc usually around 5%; I'm not convinced this is much higher than the "noise floor" generated by a human equivalent of drunk racoons. So in practice Google is being paid for displays.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>People are already freaked out plenty by the idea that googles products spies on you to sell ads.

The inverse is true - people continue using Google products despite being aware that they are spying on them. Doing it outright won't make them suddenly start caring.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
Because when something is possible and the incentives are there, then it's either already happening, or will eventually happen.
trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
But I'm not saying they are not getting paid - I'm saying they are not getting paid by Google. They might be making money on sponsored links, or being part of some content farm. Barnacles aren't aware of how they are working for their whale.
trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
Twitter doesn't mark bot accounts as sponsored.

As to how - many ways, some of them really creative. One that I remember was an account that's reposting stuff that I genuinely liked, some left-wing activist content, and only now and then they would push something different, like a message about how this one time brand X turned out to be crap during a manifa.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>AI hype guys on Twitter work pro bono.

Why do you assume not being explicitly paid by Google means not being part of Google's marketing strategy?

Google's whole business model is getting people to do work for free ("produce content") by making them believe they are doing something else.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>Europe trying to regulate AI advances coming out of America.

That's just an attempt to prevent technical colonisation. An analogy would be Japan and China trying to fence off missionaries. Protestantism was about something different: decentralisation. And in that regard there's no difference between Google and their competitors - it's all strictly centralised; nothing Protestant about it.

Having properly Open Source models would be protestant. And EU regulations should help it happen by reducing the incentives for centralised ones.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>Others in Gen Z’s top 10 include M&M’s, Walmart, Target, Doritos, KitKat, and Oreo.

Makes one wonder if it's actually representative of the whole gen Z, or just some specific western subset.

trasz4··on Google I/O and the Coming AI Battles
>It’s like listening to a mad scientist connect totally unrelated (seemingly) events.

Why a mad scientist and not a mad junkie? Or just some clueless language model, artificial or not? I think we tend to make this assumption that things that seem complicated _are_ complicated, and not just random bs, and that assumption no longer holds.

>E.g., I don’t at all understand the linkage between current events and the schism between the Catholic Church and Protestants denoms.

Hadn't read it, but let me guess, is it about how Gutenberg changed the society's interconnection fabric, and it triggered Thirty Year's War, and the same fabric remodeling thing is happening right now? :)

trasz4··on Cybernetic Culture Research Unit
Not a proper source, but have you ever met someone with undiagnosed ADD and wondered why do they drink obscene amounts of coffee or energy drinks? It's a self-medication; it makes it much easier to focus.
trasz4··on Cybernetic Culture Research Unit
"Arriving at fascism" is fine, the problem is when it doesn't make you think and back off far enough.
trasz4··on US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings
>In my experience, the bulk of the community is willing to believe that we tell the truth

Indeed.

> if only because it would be stupid and reckless not to

Not really, even if it was somehow proven.

> the only value HN has to YC is the good will of the community.

That's called a brand, and other brands do fine despite lying to their customers. In fact it's often considered a core part of business.

trasz4··on US on track to set record in 2023 for mass killings after series of shootings
>No one associated with YC flagged this article

But there's no transparency, so there's no reason to assume it's true and not just the usual corporate PR.

trasz4··on The big idea: why you can’t leave climate out of history
If you read that link, you'd know that what you are doing is anything but honest debating.
trasz4··on The big idea: why you can’t leave climate out of history
>There's also an entire industry behind climate sensationalism telling people we're all going to be wiped off the planet in the next couple decades

Might want to learn the difference between terms "industry" and "science".

trasz4··on UN Human Rights Chief Urges UK to Reverse ‘Deeply Troubling’ Public Order Bill
[citation needed]
trasz4··on UN Human Rights Chief Urges UK to Reverse ‘Deeply Troubling’ Public Order Bill
Sure, but he's an elected official, not a random hereditary dude.
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