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> "Is it a tab or is it a button". UI is very contextual, and in Firefox's case they're very obviously tabs

Agree. I don't believe one second anyone was like "geeee, where are tabs and what are these buttons?". It's very obvious it's just a tab redesign which doesn't change anything at all.

Dramatic much?

They changed the style of the tabs. That's it. People really can act like spoiled children sometimes, it's ridiculous.

It's not a disaster, lots of less vocal people love how it looks now. I love it.

This comment is part of why I love Gitlab.

> One of the most problematic areas, as you perfectly mentioned, is the left sidebar. We already enable project administrators to remove items from there by going to Settings -> General -> Visibility, project features, permissions, and then toggling off the areas you would like to remove. However, this is a project setting, not per user.

I can't believe I missed that. Is it a somewhat recent feature? I could swear I could not disable everything a few months ago when I tried it (I remember not being able to hide Operations, Analytics, etc.). Maybe I just went too quickly through the visibility options.

Well I apologize, it is indeed feasible to hide the features I don't use. Thanks for the heads up.

> I hope that gives you a better understanding how our UX team at GitLab thinks about this

Thank you for these explanations. Although I think some pages are too bloated, I like the fact that you act on it. And to be honest, I've always found each iteration of the UI better than the previous one, so there's that.

I hate to say it because I love it, but GitLab.

When I'm on a repository, the sidebar has 5 items that I don't use and cannot remove (Github in comparison lets me hide almost anything I don't use: discussions, issues, wiki...).

Issues are bloated and nothing can be hidden: designs, linked issues, votes, comments, right sidebar with todo, assignees, time tracking, due date, labels, weight (even though the feature is "locked"), confidentiality, status and references.

That's true on every single page on Gitlab: tons of great stuff hidden between things that I don't use.

I love that Gitlab has so many features, but I hate that I cannot cherry pick what I actually use to cleanup the UI.

Don't be over dramatic. It's still tabs and an URL bar, there's nothing to adjust to.

> Keyboard shortcuts are not usually meant to be "discovered" (how do you discover ctrl+x?).

Of course they are, don't be silly. Even in Finder, the "Édition" menu (I don't know how it's called in english) lists the keyboard shortcuts next to their names (copy, paste...). When you don't select anything, it even shows "Cut (Cmd+X)" grayed out! It just disappears when yous elect a file/folder

> and not accustomed to Mac

If I'm not accustomed to macOS after using it exclusively for more than 2 years, that shows where it sucks. There's plenty of things that I love on macOS: Spotlight, three-finger moves, even the weird fullscreen mode because it works so well with the pad. But the finder just sucks. That's it. It's not the end of the world and doesn't make macOS crappy. It's just a bad app.

This is always the argument used by fanboys, "you're used to Windows crappy way". For them there's no way macOS can actually be suboptimal in its own ways, even without comparing it to something else.

I love Apple products and to be honest I generally like macOS too but these responses are ridiculous.

Windows Update has a clearly displayed "delay for 7 days" button. There's also advanced settings with more knobs.

macOS just nags you everyday.

>I don't think it's at all obvious which way is _correct_.

From a UX perspective the answer is pretty clear. Copy/Cut/Paste is the winning paradigm, which empirically makes it the correct way.

>I think it's equally wrong to point a finger to a Windows machine and shout "Why you don't have a command key"

Well actually I think the control/option/command paradigm makes more sense than ctrl/alt/super, so yeah, I'd love this being copied by Microsoft. It's harder than just supporting Cmd-X in the Finder though. Adding Cmd-X to Finder is just a net gain, it doesn't even require deprecating or breaking anything. It just brings a standard to an app that should support it.

How does one discover Cmd-Opt-V?

Even with a right click after copying a file, there's no "Move" option. Your explanation makes sense but doesn't really seem supported with Finder's UX since the "Move" terminology doesn't exist anywhere

> I don't think you've ever actually used a Mac.

For the last 2 years I've used a Mac professionally and personally. I switched from Windows because lots of things are better. Finder is not one of them. And your answers should give you a hint why it sucks.

An empty file is a file that is empty, with the name and extension I chose on the moment I need it.

>And yes you can cut. Cmd-C, Cmd-Opt-V.

With the wrong keyboard shortcut, the correct one universally being Cmd-X.

>And yes, there's a way to go the parent folder. SEVERAL: > >- Go -> Enclosing Folder > >- Cmd-Up > >- Right click on the window title and choose any enclosing folder from the tree > >- Show the Path Bar and double click any enclosing folder from the tree

Several ways, none being the correct one. Nice. I know Apple likes hard to discover shortcuts but this is ridiculous.

> Press CMD-J to open up the visual option, you can auto group and sort, snap to grid (unsorted), choose a default view.

I found this menu but missed the "default view" button, thanks!

It still boggles my mind that "non aligned on the grid" is the default though. It's a mess.

> Looks like all of the complains are basically "they're not where they was on Windows".

Well... yeah kinda but not only. Windows does some things better, and it seems like a good idea to copy good UX paradigms wherever they come from. Also for some of these your answere is "why do you want to do this?" or "use some obscure keyboard magic". I want to because I want to. Sometimes I'm in a folder and want to create a specific file because it fits my current workflow. I don't always do it, but sometimes I need to.

>Copy as regularly (Cmd-C), and use Option-Cmd-V to move the file where you want to.

I don't care, why is it not Cmd-X? Why do they break the universal standard with this?

>How it hides files and directories, doesn't show extensions, etc.

Finder does that too. I didn't list it because it can be configured, which is IMO a sensible default for standard users.

>But there's one thing it gets right: it shows you where you are, and you can edit that to go anywhere.

YES! Finder allows to display a breadcrumb at the bottom, but the simplest way to go anywhere is Cmd+Shift+G. It sucks as a shortcut, and even then it's inferior to Explorer.

> the intrusive updates that guarantee I'll have to wait for an undefined time before I can get some work done

This is a common criticism but it's entirely false. Windows offers a lot more way to delay or refuse updates than macOS. When macOS wants to update, the best you can do is "Ask again tomorrow". And pray you see the popup before it reboots in 60 seconds.

The Finder is atrocious. It's the worst default macOS app and probably the worst program period I've ever used. It's been so dumbed down that it's basically unusable for anyone slightly experienced.

- There's no way to create an empty file

- There's no easy way to cut a file/folder (Cmd-x doesn't work)

- There's no (?) way to keep everything consistently sorted and aligned

- ~~Tags are useless and just take up space for nothing~~ This one is entirely subjective. I retract it.

- No "parent folder"...

There's some great features in Finder but it sucks at so many things it's just frustrating to use. Windows Explorer is infinitely better. It has less cool features (no tabs for instance) but is so much better to actually use.

I get that some features are hidden to avoid confusing non savvy users, but preventing experimented users to do basic stuff is criminal.

It actually makes sense because during the covid crisis, there's been huge issues with student poverty (post high school). So giving out 300€ for 18 years old to buy video games when 1 year older students struggle hard to make ends meet is not taken well by some.

A 1 time 300 bucks given to all the students with a scholarship would be way more appreciated than 300 bucks given to all the 18 years old without distinction.

Why does the webpage animation move on scroll? Why is it not just a video?

Most trendy product websites do this now (including Apple), but I can't figure out why? As a user, it feels extremely laggy since I don't scroll perfectly smoothly. I feel like they would have a better grip on the smoothness of the rendering if it was a simple video? I also don't like it because it feels like I have to scroll "hard" for the page to scroll down.

What's the benefit of this? I genuinely would like to know.

> To be honest this just sounds like you're used to whatever Apple is doing and nothing Google would do (except outright copy iOS) would feel "ok" for you.

I've used an Android phone (including 2 Nexus 5x and a Pixel 3a, my current one) my whole life and always thought it looked okay, but not great. I've had an OnCall iPhone for a few months though, and everything just looks way more polished, sane, and even comfortable. The animations are smoother. The colors are more beautiful. The content density is better. And mainly, everything looks less generic.

It's a feeling and I'm only a sample size of 1, but I don't think "you're just used to it" is the correct answer here.

And for all of that, you need GA because...?

Interesting, I've never heard of insertAdjacentHTML before. Thank you for sharing :)

Yup, I end all my searches with either reddit or stackoverflow/stackexchange. Google has become worthless. Any query like "best xxx" doesn't return anything meaningful.

It's already visible on the "send" button IIRC. I think it's blue when it's secured, grey otherwise

The Silmarillion

Same, croak and cluck don't map with actual words or meaning in my mind. I just know croak is fatal and cluck is not. It's infuriating.

>What I did love about perl though — something I don't find in modern languages — is its carefree playfulness, which must have stemmed from the hacker culture associated with it. I still chuckle every time I use Carp for debugging. Carp::croak, Carp::confess, or Carp::cluck are genius!

As someone who works with a legacy system written in Perl (we're slowly moving to Go), I absolutely hate this. It's completely obscure for no reason, and that's just not fun. I'm glad no language does this anymore.

Same goes for Perl critic levels: --brutal | --cruel | --harsh | --stern | --gentle, they're all compleyely useless at conveying any meaning! why is brutal > cruel??