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How conscientious and agreeable of you
I love the framework ethos and plan to continue supporting them but imo they do have kinks to work out.
I am saying it is pointless to appeal to such things. If we always appealed to skepticism science would never advance because everything would be too unknowable. We get to define what words like consciousness means, so we can intentionally define to be within the realm of scientific inquiry. Most people probably define consciousness outside of scientific realm of inquiry (notions of a soul etc) and that is fine, but at least in the first definition there can be scientific debate.
You can believe whatever you want, use whatever framework you want (religion, spirituality, science etc). I'm just pointing out that it is pointless to debate between the two because they fundamentally disagree about how to inquire about the world and answer questions like this. Everyone in this debate is talking past each other without acknowledging that they are starting from two very different positions and sets of definitions.
If you claim 'consciousness' is just an emergent phenomena of complexity (something I happen to agree with) then sure neural nets are potentially slightly conscious, but that isn't how most people view consciousness unfortunately.
Most people view 'consciousness' as some 'pie in the sky' component of biological life that has yet to be discovered by science, but this line of inquiry is completely outside the realm of useful dialog, so it seems pointless to debate such things.
These are the two general views of consciousness, the first at least provides a useful framework for discussion, but the two camps will vehemently always disagree with each other.
> "The question of whether a computer can think is no more interesting than the question of whether a submarine can swim." - Edsger Dijkstra
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312.html
Latest benches have AMD and Intel winning in about the same number of tests.
Yes they are free and there can be no cost sharing of any kind in the USA - insured and uninsured get if free. Same goes for most countries in the EU.
Compared to what exactly and for what crop? Rain is free and is all that is needed for plenty of crops
https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2020/11/23/ox...
Yeah just to second this I think that a lot of us coming from software backgrounds like to think of laws as being code, fully definable, automatable and capable of covering all edge cases. This isn’t the case. Judgement is required.
Not to ruin my own metaphor but I actually think there is a lesson about software as well. Software is not something capable of perfection. There is no perfect code, everything is a bodge, some bodges are more useful than others. You can’t cover every edge case. Software evolves and has flaws much like the product of natural evolution.
Libraries also have movies and music... should they have put those out for free too? I love wayback machine but I’m not sure I follow the logic on this one. I’m no legal expert but that seems like pretty iffy reasoning.
I agree it should be but that doesn’t seem like a huge deal especially considering the alternative platform (android) doesn’t even have a comprehensive backup solution (only individual apps via gdrive etc).
I used to work for a lab doing coral reef sea floor mapping to track reef progression year over year, this was only possible because of recent advances in ml. This is just an example of course.
There is tons of work being done (and successfully used today) in healthcare domains, weather modeling, wireless rf tech, geospatial remote sensing etc etc etc.
My point is AI is being leveraged a lot and is moving forward quickly but the applications for average consumers that are both cost effective and highly useful are growing thinner.
If you want to see consumer tech examples that have been at least moderately successful I think some highlights are Google photos image recognition, current speech to text processing in most places (Apple google amazon), image processing in most smartphone cameras (wrt ml especially night photos) and unfortunately (IMO) a lot of content aggregation algorithms (YouTube, Facebook etc) optimizing for engagement.
You clearly have no idea what you’re talking about - these things don’t just happen overnight cause the US says so.
Sanctions in this case have been discussed and formalized by multiple groups and organizations including OECD, FATF and the UN Security Council.
Lol the article you list was published before the documentation cited was presented (and before my articles were even published) - additionally you are moving the goalposts - the op claim is that the nsa hasn’t foiled any terror plots - not about metadata collection
A panel member claimed the phone metadata collection program hadn’t saved any lives/foiled any attacks - not that the NSA itself hasn’t.
Additionally they present this as being at odds with the Obama administrations documentation, not a refutation (they didn’t find them to be false claims).
This can’t be true - there are plenty of sources citing foiled plots and we see similar publications from other governments (EU and beyond) citing similar justifications. A quick google yields:
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/nsa-director-50-potential-te...
https://www.politico.com/story/2013/06/nsa-leak-keith-alexan...
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/gchq-foiled-terr...
It’s entirely common for countries to have codes that affect those outside their borders - especially ones that were agreed upon in treaty or trade deal. What is unique here is a country demanding that a non local company engage in censorship outside its territory. These two things are nothing alike