Literally moments before reading this I was debating about using tap water instead of running to the store for bottled water to take my pills in my hotel on the island that this article is about. I’m here on vacation. I drank the tap water with hesitation and was pleased to find that it didn’t taste weird at all. After probably about a liter of it I am feeling fine. I am available to do more experiments if anyone wants.
I didn’t just get you, I dunked on you. If your neighbor says he has more trouble losing weight than other people controlling for calories and exercise, this is very plausible. And it certainly isn’t outside the realm of physical law.
No, just admit that I got you. Show me a single case of a persons skin being green from birth. So are we supposed to think it’s physically impossible for the human body to make its skin green? It is well within the realm not only of physical possibility but also plausibility. A persons cells can manufacture all kinds of molecules, including green ones. Just because something is strange to you and you’ve never heard of it doesn’t mean it’s physically impossible. The machinery of metabolism is very complex and it controls energy and fat utilization. It’s the machinery that drives the metabolic behavior of the human body, not the laws of thermodynamics. I’m right.
You say you want to see a fat person starve. You also need to see the one million other malfunctions of biological pathways that are responsible for the behavior that we are used to seeing in the human body. There are one million things we have never seen because of the astounding reliability of the human body as a machine. Just because you haven’t seen these malfunctions doesn’t mean that there’s nothing under the hood.
If you want to see an example of metabolic disorder that is even more strange, even more bizarre then look at African sleeping sickness. If you think that it’s too weird for a person to not burn fat, how about a person who cannot make energy of any kind out of what he eats?
Again, you are wrong. It has nothing to do with physics. A human body is completely capable of remaining fat in the event of the cessation of eating. A person can die of starvation while fat and die in a fat body. The metabolic machinery of the human body is not static. It can choose to hang on to fat right up until you die. It can choose to use almost none of the food you eat to create energy. It can do anything no matter how illogical, including kill you. This is an illustration of the fact that the human body is a very precarious and complicated machine and the only reason people aren’t more aware of issues like this is because it is an insanely reliable machine — reliable enough to give us many delusions about certain aspects of ourselves being innate.
It is literally physically possible for it to be true that a person cannot lose weight even if they eat less due to a sudden and extreme metabolic pathology. Again, super bad physics.
If you are a physicist then you are an exceptionally dull one. There is no physical law that determines what the human body does with the molecules it ingests. It can turn those molecules into fat or energy, in any ratio, or send the molecules right back out without even using them. This is a matter of metabolics and hormones, not physics. Calories in calories out is bullshit. Not because it isn’t broadly a good heuristic but because it isn’t based on any kind of biological axiom and is very often misused.
I live with them. I work at home and one of them does too. I see basically everything they eat. I know how much they exercise. They simply use more of the food they eat to make fat. And yes, calories in calories out is complete bullshit. There is no rule or axiom of biology that says you have to utilize 100% of the food energy that you consume. It’s possible for people to put it all away as fat, none of it as fat, all of it for energy or none of it for energy as illustrated in this case and in African sleeping sickness. People who say that it’s a matter of thermodynamics and that physics demands calories in calories out be true is a belligerent and arrogant fool.
I know several people who eat way less than me and are as fat as ticks. The simple fact that calories in calories out does not explain obesity has been cracking over the head of doctors for decades and doctors have resisted addressing it. It’s like a person ignoring being cracked over the head with an oar — sometimes you wonder how they are able to do it. The drooling idiots… I think you could argue they are responsible for killing people at this point. The negligence is astounding.
I think even if we find some markers it won’t be enough. It will take a full blown revolution in how we measure human anatomy in a clinical setting. That’s why it’s taken so long.
It’s not a problem at all. Some people are predisposed to turning psychological stress into a psychiatric pathology but there is nothing intrinsic about stress or space travel that causes psychiatric problems.
People on death row meet your criteria and probably endure more stress and a lot of them don’t develop psychiatric disease.
Yes, inflammatory signals can and do pull metabolic levers, something that is criminally under appreciated, and this can manifest as feeling tired somehow. There is absolutely a connection.
Well said. I said the immune system should be to blame in the previous thread and was downvoted to hell. But it’s true. What’s more, it’s highly under appreciated that the immune system is extremely ancient and it does a lot more than the typical things associated with it like destroying tissue. It pulls deep metabolic levers that can make critical cells, including brain cells, latent. It can do many amazing things. In the future, the immune system won’t be known for immunity — it will be known as something like the second nervous system and will be associated with the nth great wave of medical progress when we finally conquer it and all the hundreds of diseases it causes. Diseases we don’t even have a name for now, I know for a fact.
You want to address your countries lobbying problem by killing business rather than using legislation or political action to prevent lobbying. That is decidedly unwise.
It’s not so wild. Inflammation is very ancient and it does a lot more than make a paper cut turn red. It pulls lots of fundamental levers, metabolic levers. Inflammatory signals are one of the great frontiers of medicine. We have barely scraped the surface of it.
No. They are trying to use a vaccine to solve the problem and this is wrong because the virus is not the root cause of harm. Even if they did manage somehow to prevent the virus from getting in, which the vaccine will fail at, it wouldn’t matter because this same kind of immune dysfunction is at the center of a million other diseases. A treatment that controls the immune system wipes them all out in one stroke. But people are stuck on yesterdays thinking
Americans are such colossal idiots. I can say it because I’m an American. They think, god what kind of evil and stupid person would EVER send their kid to private high school? It’s stuck-up, snobby, and the education at the free public school is just as good! Oh but in college my children must have nothing but the best and make connections with lots of important people and if it costs us hundreds of thousands of dollars then it’s worth every penny and anyone who doubts that is a fool. The disaster that our colleges are in is caused by this fear of missing out, the mental disease of the common idiot. If I had kids it would be the best private schools and tutoring up until college and I wouldn’t pay a penny for college unless it was a physics major. If you truly educate your kids from 0 to 18 then they really don’t need college.
This headline is dishonest reporting honestly and I’m really saddened when I see ars technica do this. They chip away at the truth for a few clicks. To say a hacker is “controlling” an electric car means that he is driving it around and there is absolutely no other reasonable interpretation of that headline. So the headline imprints itself in the minds of thousands who never read the article where it says the hacker actually doesn’t control the car… ars gets their traction and Tesla has something stolen from them unjustly. It’s sickening. You can dislike Elon musk but when you are polluting the air with lies then you are just scum.