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Let me correct you on one thing:

> VSCode: Approachability, Integration, Maintainability, Progressiveness, Velocity.

VSCode: Microsoft, Approachability, ~Integration~, ~Maintainability~, ~Progressiveness~, ~Velocity~.

> It's the same thing without telemetry It's not. The vscode team purposefully breaks services and plugins that microsoft considers "strategic".

> when you edit files with the GitHub Copilot extension/plugin enabled, file content snippets, suggestions, and any modifications to suggestions will be shared with GitHub, Microsoft, and OpenAI

You don't even need to have a git repo initialized, or even have the source be on github. You literally just need to be signed on - they made a vim plugin - and copilot will suck up all the locally edited files as well.

Microsoft purposefully broke Vscodium.

Have they removed github's spying capabilities yet? Last time I looked at this, vscode was leaking private data that should not be collected and processed inadvertently.

Relying on Microsoft software for collaboration has created some of the worst engineering disasters and waste of resources I've ever seen.

The company's motto seems to be that every customer is unique, and has different needs - meanwhile, all the places I've seen had very similar core problems that were amplified by relying on all the different Microsoft solutions used across their teams, and across organizations they had to collaborate with.

Not only that, but colleagues were always unhappy because they were forced to use poorly designed inconsistent tools that are user unfriendly and encouraged mistakes and apathy.

at apple there are no toggles and switches to worry about: https://www.apple.com/privacy/

Wait, are they really resetting the browser on forced automatic updates?

With every update, users need to get more paranoid about Microsoft's software because they're unintentionally incompetent about ethical standards...

The other people here were discussing and complaining that in the last version vs code engineers accidentally forgot to be careful about privacy and telemetry by default...

But don't worry microsoft cares about your privacy there are lots of toggles and switches here: https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-US/

I always included Microsoft in FAANG

not for FAANG, but yeah, it's a pretty big engineering conglomerate

> god the ones I work with just struggle so much while idiot me click 3 buttons in an IDE and move on.

Like I said in the other thread about vscode:

If you assume whatever's been done here's been done wrong it saves the company time and money, we know it's fucked up that's why we called you.

The vscode team needs to start treating msft as a threat as well

"strategic product strategy businesses feature decision" as literally said by their PM.

"and look, your competitors purchased this and they're using it (they weren't), so you need it too for compatibility reasons"

"we sell you 4 different communications and productivity enhancement software products, none of those are really any good but guess what, we managed to upsell your organization into purchasing this crap "

I've worked on a place where somehow Teams managed to f@ck double clicking on an excel spreadsheet. Across organizations. On a sensitive critical infrastructure planning document.

Sorry, I take it back, but I don't have access to the delete button.

Like what I heard from a colleague:

"If I've been called here, I can safely assume whatever's been done's been done wrong, otherwise I would not've been called here, cause I'm definitely not the cheapest option"

No, but they're selling remote wipe to large enterprise customers on worker's device's, spying on workers privacy and selling that info to management, adding DRM to excel spreadsheets - but they just can't figure out how to have multiple customers editing the same document without losing data.

"bad at design":

Either their engineers are incompetent, and accidentally chose the evil thing, or they intentionally planned it to happen this way.

They were 'attempting' to launder their image.

> There's no coherent threat model here.

My threat model is Microsoft selling bogus "productivity enhancement" features to customers, pushing duplicated features, collecting data on costumers to acquire business sensitive information, and using marketshare as leverage to strangle better products.

Yes. Those get harder to find every day unless you know exactly where to look. I also wouldn't put it past them retroactively patching builds to cover them up.

Lot's of extensions - the ones that Microsoft decided were 'strategic' - purposefuly stops working magically when you're using the "open" vscodium version.

Then they'll use your code to train an AI to replace you.

So, recapping vs code:

* They implemented proprietary sync protocols

* They obfuscate how 'settings' are saved - no, the settings.json is not what the editor uses and they hide stuff in the internal sqlite db they use

* Capping open versions of the product

* And finally, inserting proprietary "licensed" stuff and code that purposefully breaks if you're not licensed

"Projects" are "something that advances someone's career"? I thought projects were "something which our client actually paid for and we're contractually obligated to fullfil"

It's the usual Microsoft software quality.

Because they paid for it?

That's some straight bullshit right there.

MS can't fucking keep updated office documentation, but suddenly they're hijacking URLs for quality assurance reasons!

BULLSHIT!