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> Expo and Sharpie go next. They are OK to hold and work. But ladies might find their caps a bit challenging to attach/disattach — it really takes some physical effort.

Can't speak to the Sharpies, but Expo caps require a completely uncommentworthy level of effort to remove. - lady with Expos

Kluny's response is correct, but I'll also add - when I see "rockstar programmer" on a job advertisement it reeks of "meaningless corporate BS" and/or "juvenile work environment".

If you require someone that can "develop more software than 5 - 10 newly hired regular programmers", just say so (and good luck).

Hmm I'd put the raincoat-in-the-car anecdote in the "neuroticism" category. I think of resilience as the ability to weather issues that you don't foresee.

Isn't "ended" the most relevant part of that, wrt this study?

I'm saying that IMO, the very nature of the job is compatible with the traits that he says are more common in women. I don't think that my company is an outlier here.

Maybe this isn't the public perception of tech jobs, but as a software engineer at my current company I collaborate far more than I did in my previous career as a consultant, have more opportunities to be creative, and get an extremely flexible schedule.

Even if you accept that there are biological differences between the sexes, the hypothesis that stereotypically female attributes/desires are not as compatible with tech jobs strikes me as very wrong.

I don't see how that's relevant to assessing whether someone will be an appropriate hire.

Why should it be compassionate?

Integration testing, dev environments, and data sharing.

When we started switching over to microservices, originally we were going to have some sort of standardized message format, which would include all of the info that service would need to do its job.

However, there were too many people building it too quickly, and it's since devolved into a spaghetti pile where almost every microservice has about 3-4 others on which it is dependent (and a handful on which those are dependent) - to query for some bit of data, set off an async task, etc. This obviously complicates the development environment significantly.

When I want to add a feature to a service it can take hours trying to bring up the correct dependencies, update their configuration, fix the errors that they're returning due to their dependencies being down, and set up the necessary databases and ssh tunnels.

I really wanted this to include time spent working.

> mandatory morning yoga

This would enrage me.

Absolutely these things could be decided on a local level vs. nationwide. Pretty consistent with my speculation that the federal government shouldn't be relied upon to protect a basic standard of living.

The issue is not whether people will become lazy if they get free money. If jobs are going to disappear they'll disappear, fewer people will be able to work unless somehow the workforce disappears too. The real question is how will we handle it when those jobs do disappear.

My gut tells me that Europe will embrace shorter work weeks and basic income, but in the US where we love to see people being punished for perceived failure to pull oneself up by bootstraps and other moral failures, and to promote businesses over the welfare of citizens, we'll find a way to justify laborers fighting over peanuts.

and/or making higher offers to developers outside that monoculture.

I think the difference is that the US has abject poverty at levels that call into question its status as a proper first world country. So many of these people probably simply require some basic mental health/rehab services, but they just have too many hoops to jump through to get them (assuming they qualify for Medicaid or other assistance, which isn't necessarily a given). It's not surprising that a country like Britain with reasonably accessible social services has way fewer people in this condition. To your question about why they've taken over public transit in particular - I think the situation is just that out of hand. Libraries and parks are similarly full of homeless people, probably just due to the fact that they're public.

It started when our manager gave me a project that this coworker struggled to make progress on (the transition was made in a way that allowed the coworker to save face, if he wanted to). Prior to that, he tried to talk to me as though he was a mentor, which I mostly just nodded at - some of it was useful, at least at first. After the project transition though, he complained that I made gratuitous style changes, opened several PRs to try to fix the problem before I could and then in response to my code review publicly told me that he had more experience than me so maybe I should listen to him.

All of that might be attributed to his own self-consciousness if it weren't for the fact that he was deferential to male engineers in code review, and during the height of the tension with me, during scrum he started openly criticizing/mocking a female contractor's work (on an entirely unrelated project that he knew very little about).

This is a pretty egregious example, but I could imagine that a much subtler version happens more often (possibly it's happened to me but it seems more pragmatic to assume it's not related to sexism if at all possible).

Thanks, I shot off my comment kind of quickly so should clarify that I definitely think that many policies touted as "women-friendly" are incredibly important but I think of them more as family/age-group-friendly or human-friendly (maternity & paternity leave, flexible hours, etc). My comment was basically just referring to diversity groups (as I've experienced them) and women-only events.

Woman at a ~100 person startup here -

Wanted to comment because there are a lot of posts on here that seem to promote some idea that the company has to really push for women-friendly policies/activities to be a great place for women to work, which I happen to completely disagree with (save for policies that could be classified as human-friendly such as leave and flexible hours).

I work at a mediocre startup (first engineering job, don't judge!) and therefore we have some trouble hiring people. We've got the ping pong and kegs, which I couldn't care less about, and plenty of brogrammers and other bromployees, but day to day those really are irrelevant if you're getting interesting work and have a good manager.

We absolutely have a diversity issue - I'm the only female engineer on a team of about 20, the company as a whole has maybe 1/3 women, it took the company about 6 years before they had their first woman go on maternity leave (many men are fathers, though their paternity leaves were short), and I don't work with anyone who would be considered underrepresented in tech.

Because we have trouble hiring, we've tended to get people who are super green but excellent coworkers, or who are great programmers with mediocre-to-awful people skills. Of the latter, 2 had very clear misogynist tendencies, and both were fired after complaints made by men. One of the two made my life really uncomfortable when I surpassed his skill level, but only for about a week and then he was fired. I didn't even have to complain - my manager saw it and acted immediately.

We don't have a very active diversity group, though we tried to at one point and it fizzled out. But honestly, my boyfriend works at a company with a diversity group and they do the most ridiculous, cringe-worthy activities that really do not make women look very sensible, unfortunately (arts and crafts, etc).

Basically, my company looks like the exact type of place you might want to avoid if you want a female-friendly workplace, but it's been a wonderful place for me to grow as an engineer. It has some major problems, but is really trying to take concrete steps to improve. I'd love to have some female role models and a more diverse group of coworkers, so please don't discount companies like mine for looking like the stereotype!

> or is terminated without just cause or laid off.

Wait, seriously? One can be laid off but still barred from working for a competitor? Grateful to live in CA but that makes me ill on behalf of the rest of the country.

If our country gave more assistance to caregivers of the disabled I might have more of a problem with this, but as it is I think that, while not ideal and ideally a last resort, everyone should MTOFB if a family decides this is what they need to do to provide the best care for their child.

These videos already existed and are still being produced, and if you live in CA your tax dollars are being used to produce them whether or not they're made public. They're being created for Berkeley students first, made ADA-accessible as needed by the student body. Since they already exist, wouldn't Berkeley be doing a disservice to many disabled people by just keeping them private? And, because its a public school, couldn't one argue that the videos should be publicly available too?

I think the problem with asking for anecdotes is that people don't necessarily separate their decision-making-due-to-CS knowledge from decisions they make due to experience. But if you don't have CS knowledge there are many types of projects you'll probably never be assigned or might not even try for, so you won't have the chance to use-or-not-use it.

I think vikascoder makes a really good point, actually. The fact that the poster was Indian was entirely irrelevant except in the context of stereotyping all the "other" Indian programmers. I found the post offensive on behalf of anyone who is tired of lazily getting lumped into any group. Despite not being an Indian programmer.