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When I graduated in CS with an M.Sc. I said to myself that I didn't see myself in a cubicle coding along all day. I'm also more outgoing than the average hacker so I wanted to work with people more than with machines. So I applied for all the "wrong" jobs. (My thesis was about usability so I applied for usability engineering positions, competing with psych graduates etc. while the industry was desparately looking for programmers with my background.)
It was good that I couldn't get the job I wanted, forcing me to take on a programming job. I became a project manager within three years and a product manager in a larger company within five years. I didn't program anymore at my day job during that time.
But I realized I did love programming so I started all kinds of side projects and kept up with technology even though it was not needed much for my job.
What I'm saying is, you may not have discovered it yet. Get a programming job and if you really do hate it, get promoted to some management position (it's often easier than you would suspect because most hackers don't want to do management). I know quite a few people who did that. They're doing a good job and they're happy not having to code anymore.
Real life example: I'm always in search of good recipes. For sure, there are tons of good recipes out there. But there are even more bad ones out there. In my experience, user rating systems only help to a limited degree. Even then, I'm facing a long web search and I typically have to try many of them out before I arrive at a good one. On the other hand, I collect recipes from grandmothers and grandfathers. They have never failed me. Why? Because they've been practicing them for 50 years.
The first album was recorded and mixed in Logic. The second album was recorded with Logic but the engineer who is currently mixing it switched to ProTools. The music itself is all handmade by us, the musicians.
I quit a well paid job in IT to do this full-time a few years back when we got signed. I guess the experience was much like being an entrepreneur.
I've had mine for about a year now. I just wear them like that, I don't use them to run. I like them a lot.
Our fans often say it's too much and they'd rather like the raw sound of our live concerts. I think the next album will be a lot more like that. (Still more than just three tracks, though.)
These are a few things we did:
-I built this website as a community website early on. There's some additional material when you sign up (e.g. demo recordings etc.). You can find out which other fans went to the same concerts and communicate with them. There's a shop, guestbook, Google Maps integration, galleries, and a forum. Couldn't find any off-the-shelve package that did all of this together so I had to code it myself.
-All our videos are zero budget. People like them anyway (they don't care about quality so much). We're currently shooting more videos for our new album.
-We gave away a few tracks in the past and I'd like to do it for our next album which is due in the fall. But like I said, I have a feeling I will fail to convince my drummer/bassist.
-Remix contest: http://www.rivodrei.de/remix/ (And yes, we could give away all individual tracks of all songs but the demand doesn't seem to be as high as for the no-drums version where everything else is pre-mixed.)
-Live webcasting from the studio during our recordings for the new album (via former Mogulus.com).
-Some fun stuff such as this one: http://dilbertblog.typepad.com/the_dilbert_blog/2008/01/the-... (This is in English, btw.)
-We try to collect email addresses as much as we can, especially at concerts. Newsletters are sent about once a month and people can opt out any time.
-About the use of Flash: There's a little box at the top right with pictures of live concerts. I have a feeling that people thought they were ads because of the animation.
-We have a MySpace page but for many months now, we've been attracting mostly spam. I am considering deleting our profile there. We haven't used Twitter yet because it hasn't taken off that much in Germany yet but when it does, we will use it more. We have a Facebook page and that seems to gain some traction now. YouTube is doing ok. No Flickr account. (We have our own gallery and I'm too lazy to post all pictures twice.) I like to focus on our own website because all these services come and go.
-I answer all (serious) emails. This is very important. And it's funny how excited some people are to get an email from the singer and not from some management. ;)
It takes a lot of time to shoot on all these channels and create new material (music/videos) at the same time. I'm not doing this full-time so unfortunately, there's not much time left for something else.
My band has been working the way described here for 3-4 years now. We're not famous but we have our fan base and we know there are people willing to pay for stuff. It's not enough to cover our living expenses but maybe we'll get there one day. Next stop: ramen-profitable...
Still, as the only Internet-savvy member in the band, it's hard to explain this to my band mates. E.g. we get lots of requests from dummers for our songs without the drum tracks so they could play along. They'd pay much more than for a regular album. And they'd upload videos to YouTube which would be free promotion for us. But I cannot get our drummer to agree to releasing these versions.
Most musicians don't get it. Yet.
So once I put it out there, I tend to constantly look for external validation even though I might not want to. It's not my own anymore.
I'd don't like to generalize but that's what happened to me. And I'd like to add that Chinese != Japanese (re: Yoko Ono).
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