rimunroe

> I deliberately ignored it, because it was all irrelevant.

Attempting to have a discussion with someone who participates like that pointless.

Exactly!

Yeah I gotchu. I have no idea how that would go in a court for real. I was just trying to explain how and why things are the way they (sometimes) are

It looks like that was MDY Industries, LLC v. Blizzard Entertainment, Inc., which relied on MAI Systems Corp. v. Peak Computer, Inc. for the relevant part of the ruling.

The person I was responding to was saying that anytime you viewed copyrighted content with a browser you’d necessarily be committing copyright infringement. I’m not a lawyer but I can imagine that the reasoning there would be slightly different from someone simply viewing a post in a browser as part of the intended use of the site.

Sure, but that seems different from what I was addressing. The person I was responding to was saying that the law as a whole usually doesn’t make sense. They were saying that in the context of arguing that if the law didn’t consider viewing a page of copyrighted copying as involving copying due to the technical basis of it having to transfer bits to your computer then the law didn’t make sense. My point was that laws don’t have to encompass or fully specify all edge cases, and that the ways laws are written can be open to interpretation. I think I removed a sentence before posting about the purpose of finders of facts in the US system like juries or judges in bench trials.

> Because there's no physical mechanism for the information to be transmitted over a computer network other than by copying the bytes.

Your response seems to ignore everything in my comment other than the second sentence. I was asking why that detail should matter as far as the law is concerned, and I gave some reasons I don't think that would be good or practical.

And this example is not just due to people not taking the trouble to write fully specified rules. I don't think such rules could even be written. You can just do your best to cover the cases you can think of. The complexity of society is incomprehensibly vast and constantly changing, and the law has to have wiggle room to account for it.

Could you elaborate in what way you find the law mostly doesn't make sense? It has to be flexible in order to work with actual humans. Why should visiting a page on your computer count as copying? Usually when we talk about copying it's someone making a duplicate so it can be accessed later. Only a very technical user is going to be diving into their cache to view that content after the fact. The vast majority of people don't understand that the browser is storing anything on their computer, much less how to access it before it's purged.

Wait, what do you think the A stands for?

I was about to say that libcern has some truly ancient bits in it and it's still being used today

Do you think the left broadly supports prison labor or that carveout in the 13th Amendment? Personally I've never seen a leftist voice any feelings on them other than contempt.

> but unless the entire hiring process is remote (I've done this once so it's not impossible)

FYI this is the norm for fully remote positions, at least in my experience

I have several Griswolds and they’re my daily drivers. I love cooking on them, but stainless steel is so much easier to clean. I can scour it as hard as I want and it’ll be fine without any additional work.

My grandmother isn’t going to be using a 12” Lodge cast iron skillet no matter how much exercise she gets.

> Twitter became a global phenomenon with the same UI and an even slower ruby on rails implementation behind it, despite the constant fail whale.

I’m not sure what this comment is responding to. I don’t want a constant fail whale or a slow experience, and I don’t think a lot of other people would want that either.

> As you're already self-hosting ATproto anyway, why not self-host a mastodon instance as well?

Hosting a PDS is free, plus it’s considerably lighter weight conceptually than a whole Mastodon instance!

I don’t think the problem I want solved here is replicating forums, blogs, IRC, Teamspeak, or gaming servers. I want something a lot like Twitter but with some way to take my stuff and leave if an asshole takes control. I don’t want Mastodon, because from what I’ve seen of it when friends link me stuff from it it’s extremely clunky and slow. Plus, whenever I’ve gone to create an account I’ve been presented with a huge list of servers to chose from, many of which seem to be focused on a specific topic, which makes me think I need to pick which community I want to be tied to with minimal knowledge.

I thought Rosetta 2 was a purely software layer

> I would think that would be hard to do if you've already seen what appropriate portions are.

This would be true if not knowing what an appropriate portion size is was the one thing keeping most people from losing weight. If that was the case, traditional dieting would have a far better track record with long term weight loss.

> Email is very much decentralized.

It looks like about 97% of people use iCloud, Gmail, or Outlook as their provider. That doesn't feel like it's terribly different. The people not using one of those big three make up a comparable percent of the total as the number of Bluesky users using alternative PDSes.

Three providers vs one provider does feel very different if those are the only option, but that's not the case for email or Bluesky/AT proto.

> I can set up an email account in a few minutes and by choosing from a list of thousands of providers all over the world.

You can also set up an account on a different PDS and/or use a different app view quite trivially too so I'm not sure that's substantially different.

The thing I was responding to was about pricing policy in general, but I would assume so

> Usually the advertised price must be honored, because it may have brought the customer to your store.

This is not the case for groceries in Massachusetts at least. If there’s a discrepancy between the tag’s price and the scanned price the store must charge the customer the lowest of the two: https://www.mass.gov/price-accuracy-information

ATproto does support storing data elsewhere. That’s what a PDS does. I’m not sure what you mean by an offline-first system in this context though or why it’s required for decentralization. Could you elaborate?

It sounds like Blacksky's outage was much more limited and was caused by them missing some spots where their code still accidentally had some Bluesky integration due to it being the default: https://bsky.app/profile/rude1.blacksky.team/post/3mjnf6pubr...

> If by "decentralised" you mean "0.001% of it is not only hosted centrally"

Sure, much like how email is decentralized in theory but barely is in practice. This doesn’t mean that the decentralized nature is just a marketing gimmick.

It’s unsurprising that almost everyone uses the Bluesky app given that A) the infrastructure for hosting your own relay or app view (I can’t remember which) didn’t have a reference implementation until a while after launch, and B) the user base is much less tech-y than what I’ve seen on Mastodon. Most of the user base moved over in the flight from Twitter/X a couple years ago. I think if it had come out at a different time you’d see something which looked a lot more like Mastodon’s large population distribution.

Also, while this doesn't really matter it looks like the number of users on non-Bluesky PDSes is 1.42% of the total, not 0.001%.

> They have designed a protocol that could theoretically be decentralised. Then reality hit, and it was centralised.

Could you explain what you mean by the underlying protocol having become centralized over time? While I can understand arguing about whether or not Bluesky-the-social-network is practically decentralized to the degree of something like Mastodon or that it became more centralized over time, I think arguing that ATproto[1] itself isn’t decentralized would be ludicrous.

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03239

The Bluesky app view is centralized in that it can decide which content to show, but A) the hosting of that content is decentralized, and B) alternate app views like Blacksky exist which are fully independent of Bluesky (both Bluesky the company and Bluesky the app view). The Bluesky app view could stop showing users content from Blacksky (or any other) PDSes, but that's it. If you're using the Blacksky app view, afaik Bluesky the company can't do anything other than cut you off from Bluesky's PDSes.

My understanding is that ATProto itself is definitely decentralized but the app view most people interact with using the Bluesky app is centralized ...sort of. The Bluesky app view will read from PDSes hosted by other people, hence people on Bluesky can see stuff posted elsewhere, like users of Blacksky. If the Bluesky app view decides to stop reading from any other PDS (like those of Blacksky, or ones which are self-hosted) they're free to do so. The same is true for alternative app views like Blacksky. Since most people think of Bluesky as the thing you see on the official Bluesky app (which shows the Bluesky app view) an outage of the Bluesky app view will mean they lose the ability to view any posts from any source. If someone's using a separate app view like Blacksky, the most that will happen to them should be that they'll lose interaction with posts coming from Bluesky's PDSes until the outage ends.

I may have the division between Bluesky and Blacksky off, but ATProto does allow this sort of thing. Hosting a PDS is trivial and requires very few resources. Hosting a full app view can be expensive depending on how many PDSes you're ingesting from, but you can decide how much of that you want to do.

Don't the vast majority of young people entering the workforce have no capital gains to deal with at all? That tends to be more of a problem for people who are already well off. Are you talking about a narrower demographic or something?

The amounts you paid in capital gains are about 50% higher than I've ever paid. That was the second year I worked at a big tech company and suddenly had stock, which was about a decade into an my extremely lucrative career as a software developer. Most of my friends don't have to deal with capital gains at all because they're not part of the investor class. On average the rates of trading must be much lower for people in their 20s, no?

> I see young people frustrated when their cars get broken into or when they get robbed and criminals are not held accountable.

How often are your peers experiencing these crimes? Assuming you're in the US based on your comments, crime rates are much lower now than when in the early 2010s when I was a young adult and quite hopeful despite thinking my job prospects were bleak and that I'd never be able to afford a home.

> [...] I'm personally stronger than that.

Respectfully, I think all of your actions here contradict that claim. It's easy for a person to mistake having a temper with strength. It doesn't take strength to get pissed off and lash out at someone who is angry at you. That's something most people naturally want to do, and it's something which we work hard to teach kids to resist. It takes a lot of strength to try to put aside your immediate, gut reaction and attempt to deescalate. Your statements elsewhere in this comment section and in the blog post give the impression of a person who feels entitled and is angrily rejecting taking responsibility for the negative consequences of their actions.

Ah gotcha. That seems much more reasonable!

> How can people be so naive as to run something like Claude anywhere other than in a strictly locked down sandbox that has no access to anything but the single git repo they are working on (and certainly no creds to push code)?

> This is absolutely insane behavior that you would give Claude access to your GitHub creds. What happens when it sees a prompt injection attack somewhere and exfiltrates all of your creds or wipes out all of your repos?

I don’t understand why people are so chill about doing this. I have AI running on a dedicated machine which has absolutely no access to any of my own accounts/data. I want that stuff hardware isolated. The AI pushes up work to a self-hosted Gitea instance using a low-permission account. This setup is also nice because I can determine provenance of changes easily.