The Biochemical Beauty of Retatrutide: How GLP-1s Work
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Looking forward to more formal studies though!
It doesn't increase your appetite for healthy food. It will punish you for eating bad food. "Don't eat that steak, you're going to have crazy stomach pain tomorrow if you do!"
When it didn't work, one of the failure modes was that I still craved fatty/fried food, but I got terrible stomach pain from it, which is the worst of both worlds. If I'm still going to be unable to resist food, I don't want to be punished for it any more than I already am by being overweight!
I saw this was a feature, not a bug.
When you are on a GLP medication, commonly your digestion slows and will make you really prone to constipation and acid reflux. I've learned to eat just 3-6 ozs when I do steak, and generally opt for the veggies instead of the potatoes now. Feel much better in the morning.
The surprising thing for me, having settled into a ~1400kcal budget, is how tricky it is to hit protein goals. You go into this thinking it'll be like going low-carb, you'll just eat a lot of beef, but the fun cuts are not efficient protein delivery vehicles. Hitting the kcal budget is effortless; getting the protein in, not so much.
Keeping a small stock of these has helped me a lot with that:
https://fairlife.com/core-power/chocolate-protein-shake-42g/
I know a stomach ache is coming if I do.
It did work for around two weeks, though, and it was great. I constantly felt mildly carsick, so I didn't really want to eat anything, but also didn't have much trouble eating my macros.
I've read hundreds of anecdotal experiences from people on these drugs, and haven't encountered anyone taking 15mg without success.
Shrug, it's a mystery to me as well. It did take many months to get to that point.
I had the good fortune of responding well and being at a great starting point: despite being 40% body fat I exercised a lot and had great labs to begin with. Anecdotally I've found starting metabolic health to make a huge difference in dose response.
Other pharmaceuticals at the phase 3 stage (such as Buntanetap for Parkinson's disease) are super difficult to get, even with the right to try exemption in the US.
They are buying from Chinese dealers. And sadly, as with most GLP-1s they likely will need to take them for the rest of their life or suffer some incredible rebound weight loss/ negative health effects.
These medications are incredible if you are overweight and need them. But they are not a panacea. Also arguably buying these drugs from Chinese dealers means there is no recourse if you get a bad batch.
There is a pseudo testing setup around Finnrick but talk to anyone with a PhD in biochemistry and there are numerous ways these molecules can be improperly manufactured.
Surprised to see so many on HN being relatively careless with their heath
it was an edge case I had not considered.
People, on average, eat until they're no longer hungry. Problem is, there's only a loose relationship between your caloric needs and your hunger response. That's how you end up with underweight people who are trying to put on muscle saying they can't possibly eat any more and still can't put on weight, while having overweight people who eat twice as much as that guy and have to actively choose not eat more. Both people can make a conscious choice to disobey their signals, just like how you can choose to hold your hand to a hot stove. But it takes a lot of energy to keep up that willpower. Effective weightloss drugs solve that problem, by treating the actual problem: the hunger.
Speed of eating might also be an underrated factor in all this. Stretching out ones meals and slowing down the pace might lead to satiety triggers coming before the meal is done, whereas if one scarfs down the plate before that signal happens, well, one already scarfed down the plate and might be working into the next before those signals hit. This meta analysis suggests this is a possibility (1).
This would be true if not knowing what an appropriate portion size is was the one thing keeping most people from losing weight. If that was the case, traditional dieting would have a far better track record with long term weight loss.
And you mention exercise, that is an excellent point. Hunter gatherers might forage for 8 miles a day, while many peoples daily walking effort can be measured in a few dozen feet. Our bodies are built to be used. It is no surprise that when they are not, systems designed for a certain baseline load are no longer functioning as intended.
(they do they're fucking called glp-1s)
Australia's health organization did a meta study on people who had bariatric surgery. They found that every single one regained 70% of their original weight after five years, even though they were physically incapable of eating the way they did before.
This happened to my grandmother, she had a bypass in the 2000s, lost over a hundred pounds, and then regained it again and was back to her original weight when she passed in 2022. The woman couldn't eat more than 4 ounces per meal without throwing up.
I lost 40 pounds in 2017 from gastritis. I kept it off for three years, and then regained 50 pounds despite starting ozempic.
I could take more caffeine to reduce my desire for food, but it is already too close to bedtime. I could try to focus on work (I am) but I keep getting intrusive thoughts about the fact that I could just get ice cream/cookies/chicken fingers/burrito/quesadilla/insert food here in just a few moments.
I wish I could take these drugs, unfortunately I cannot. Terrible side effects.
Strangely, after visiting Japan I found it quite easy to eat a healthy low calorie diet for about two weeks. Now I’m back to constant food noise, despite trying to stick to a Japanese-style diet (lots of fish and vegetables and fermented foods).
The people who say “just eat less” don’t understand what the actual problem is.
The issue with these things isn't that they don't work. It's that people attempt them and do not go all the way. They go on a little diet in some ways but fail to account for all their daily calories from stuff like beverages or snacks, maybe they aren't weighing their food either and just assuming a lot with what they are eating. They try and work out but it looks like walking on a treadmill or moving some 5lb weights around, far from running until lactic acid stops you or lifting to failure.
I think there is a lot of misjudgement of how intense a workout really is or how a diet should look like. And that feeds into this idea that it will not work.
But, you can't argue against thermodynamics. We don't make energy from nowhere. We are bound by the same laws of physics as anything else. If you can't lose weight with how you are eating, then the answer is obvious why that is the case: you are still eating too much given your activity level.
Multiple studies prove you wrong, IRL. Humans are not isolated test guinea pigs in a cage. It is simply not feasible to live one's life by a spreadsheet of accounting values.
> If you can't lose weight with how you are eating
The problem is people find it difficult to change how they eat.
This is largely an environmental problem - observe that obesity rates vary over time and location.
It's all the fructose in western diets. Tens of centuries of Europeans eating bountifully in the fall and then fasting through winter and spring evolved metabolic reactions that fructose means "pack on weight now because we'll be needing it"
>> and all just love the way it makes you feel
Maybe it will turn out to be an antidepressant as well. That would be quite a coup.
There is a large enthusiast community of the body building variety (who are usually first) who are already performing a bit of an unscheduled human trial and I have to say the results are amazing. We have both injectable retatrutide and pill form retatrutide to look forward to (pill form is unannounced but I have a hunch!).
It seems like it does something else. https://sph.brown.edu/news/2025-07-24/brain-science-glp-1s-a... https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11202225/
The drug is pretty much ideal: dose-response curve doesn’t flatten too much, adaptation is present but not extreme, it is entirely reversible when you get off it.
The side effects I see are a histamine reaction at the injection site and cold sensitivity. To stop the former I varied duration of injection, temperature of solution, and site. None of these had any effect so I just lived with it in a place it wasn’t too uncomfortable.
I haven’t been lifting very much during the period immediately prior due to injury playing sports and reinjury due to inactivity after a motorcycle accident years prior.
My peak lifts were @155 lbs: squat 265x5, deadlift 375x2, bench 185x1, ohp 135x5. Stating these so you know where to baseline.
Immediately prior to retatrutide schedule: squat non functional (could not squat), deadlift 225x5, bench 125x1, ohp non functional (could not raise arms above head). Weight 199.3 lbs And I was also going to physical therapy.
After schedule: squat 135x5, deadlift 325x5, bench 135x10, ohp 135x2. Weight 173 lbs
1.5 months after cessation: I didn’t increase lifts due to not having standard programming. Weight 182 lbs.
Overall, an excellent drug. I should note that I ramped up slowly from under 1 mg/week up so my nausea and other symptoms were extremely minor. At lower doses I’d walk up to the fridge as I did in the past and then decide against eating a snack. At higher doses I wouldn’t get up. I already knew I should drink but I drink a lot of Coke Zero so that was fine. I never actually hit a routine dose that was within the tested range, I was always lower.
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