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Cost to send a person to a housing facility with high security is probably much higher than the cost to give them housing with no security.

All experiences are equal. They all come and go. Its the ego which gives higher importance to building an AI agent over opening a window.

In GitHub alternatives it shows https://gitlabhost.com/. Does anyone knows how copyright works when a different company uses GitLab name and offers competitive hosting to GitLab itself?

Nice. Do you actually realise these are just your beliefs and how you view the world? A good way to test this would be to check the number of zeroes in your bank account and Musk's net worth. Are they really close? No? Probably he has a different belief system then.

Sums up human existence.

> This sort of postmodern deconstruction of everything leads to an endless pit of nothing.

You missed the point. Even this is just a personal belief/opinion. Not truth.

Good point. Updated the original comment to mention the risk as well.

You assume you can find the truth from beliefs, words, sentences etc. Those all are human constructs which changes over time, location, personal age, mood etc.

The truth cannot be explained or written down.

You have to find it yourself.

If you are serious about truth, going for a Vipassana retreat might be a good start.

https://www.dhamma.org/en/index

This is not everyone's cup of tea. Especially if you are suffering from Psychological issues.

https://www.dhamma.org/en/about/qanda

I mean the whole point of a country is people having emotional attachment to random areas defined in a map.

If you can buy and sell land that easy, the whole concept of country goes away.

> the energy you have at that age is unparalleled.

Energy is useless without the skills, knowledge, network, money, economy etc. Look at all the 25 year olds in India who never went to college and is having trouble even making 100$s a month.

The Direct Means to Eternal Bliss - Michael Langford

The Science of Self-Realization - A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada

Ashtavakra Gita - https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakr...

Wouldn't this also means the demand from cloud providers will go down and creates a balance?

Why? You know the plotline of your life as well. You will become old, suffer and die at the end. Are you bored?

No because it's not mysterious anymore. Also not many museums in the world that can fit one.

Go and meditate. You will never find truth in thoughts/words/code/beliefs. It can be in trillions of possible combinations. You can keep churning it out for infinity and not reach anywhere.

I couldn't care less whatever is the interpretation of reality is. You seems to be interested in who is guilty or not.

I am not interested in that. It's just some thoughts in your mind.

The end result was that tech became more accessible and which is all I care about.

What makes you think my opinions will change based on how legacy systems work in real world? Just because a stupid system exists doesn't mean it's correct.

Ohh. You think being owner of a company whose newspaper is read by hundreds of millions of people every day, doesn't put you in a position of power to control the society?

> morally bad,

Apart from those words, is there anything else you think is of concern compared to the progress made by humanity by making the tech available to millions of people?

If they make the tech accessible for millions of people and improve reality, how is that a bad thing? I am confused. Unless you are too much emotionally caught up in the word "steal" and bunch of sentences.

News media like NYT, Fox etc are tools for high scale brainwashing public by the elite. This is why you see all the News papers have some political ideology. If they were reporting on truth and not opinions they won't have the need for leaning. Also you never see the journalists reporting against their own publication.

Humanity is better off without these mass brainwashing systems.

Millions of independent journalists will be better outcome for humanity.

Great. I will start a company to generate training data then. I will hire all those journalists. I won't make the content public. Instead I will charge OpenAI/Tesla/Anthropic millions of dollars to give them access to the content.

Can I apply for YC with this idea?

Yeah. But then how do you make money through all those ad impressions that you can ingest all over the internet right?

> Not paying them their fair share will likely decrease the volume of high quality data available

It won't. Thats not how capitalisam works. If high quality data became unavailable, then companies will be created to fix the problem. Only they look quite different from NYT.

Just like how Torrents didn't kill movie industry. These are lazy arguments made by people who want to make money through lawsuits.

Also I can guarentee you even in worst case, humanity would survive just fine without those high quality content just like it did for the past 50K+ years.

What you should actually be concerned about is stupid law suits like this that can prevent progress.

AI could help humanity solve more pressing problems like cancer.

By getting caught up in silly law suits like this and delaying progress one can make a case that you bring more suffering to the world.

There is no rule of law saying LLMs cannot be trained on WWW data.

New York times made it ridiculously easy for anyone to access their content by putting it in WWW for making money from page impressions. And they started ingesting links of their content to social media, search engines, etc.

And now they are acting surprised someone used the content to train an LLM.

Should have done their job in the first place to prevent it from training LLMs and make it less.

But they didn't because that affects their page impressions and ad views.

Because the more open the content the more money they make everyone click on a link and see the ad.

You can't have it both ways.

If you do gambling by making content so open so you can get more views from ads, you also get to enjoy the consequences and not cry like a baby asking for billions by making stupid decisions in the first place.

If the bar for copyright is as low as ordering of words, then I don't even know what to say.

Yeah. I don't think it makes much sense to allow copyright on textual descriptions of events that happened.

Now the question is whether did OpenAI violate the terms of service by using the bits transferred from NYT to train their LLM. I don't think their TOS had LLMs mentioned. So it's on NYT to be negligent and not update their TOS right?

> People do the work of turning these happenings into words, and are paid for it. That's what's stolen here.

Stolen from whom? Journalists who got reported got paid. The owner is a billionaire. I don't understand your logic.

Does NYT pays money to the people/countries etc it uses to as subject to create content(NEWS)? Isn't that stealing then?

Also their website TOS didn't prohibit LLMs from using their data.

I don't understand. So if New York times reported on a new laws of physics and put as an article will became copyrighted? Nobody would be able to talk about it and has to discover it by themselves?

How is reporting on an event different from reporting on discovering a scientific law?

Okay. But ChatGPT doesn't spin out the fact in the same order right? So how does this stand in court?