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Right. And azure has issues as witnessed last week with the outage.

I’m terrified of what would happen if I lost my tech job. It’s not the income but more the cost of insurance for a family of four.

How is this legal?

They will tax outsourcing next presumably.

I hear what you are saying, but I feel like this is related more to both parents working or single parent households. The more time parents work, the harder it is to get ahead, the more screen time kids will get.

Visa abuse has always been a serious issue. Are you sure we have been looking the other way, or just not looking? With the latter, the crackdown we are seeing makes sense.

I've also experienced this, and I completely agree. The reality is that you have to pay a very high salary in the US if you want someone to do a very good job. You probably have to recruit from the top universities, or the top candidate from other universities. Also, for a fraction of a US salary you can hire the very best bands in other countries, which is obviously a logical decision for any company to make.

That does not, however, excuse anyone from following the law.

I could be wrong, but the intent of the law is to encourage companies to train candidates to make them ready for the job. If you are just bringing in workers from other countries to work on us soil, even though there are us workers that can you do the job, in my mind you are essentially circumventing the intent of the law. This weakens the country for everyone.

Part of the problem right now with regards to skills is that there is essentially a threshold that has been crossed for outsourcing where the skills are just more prevalent in other countries. That's obviously not a great look for the United States.

I’m having trouble following this argument. Are you saying Hyundai built this factory expecting to gain nothing in return ?

It’s only logical that if you operate in the U.S. you follow basic U.S. laws.

My reading of the situation is that it was done maliciously or with negligence. Extending the visa a non work visa doesn’t make any sense.

I have sympathy for the workers. In reality it is the immmigration attorneys or other members of the company who need to be sanctioned.

Assuming that they are in illegally, the U.S. is the party that should be upset. If you are going to do business in the U.S. then you need to follow us laws.

Exactly. I’m not sure why this is a controversial take.

I’ve been confused by reading the articles and comments on this matter. Are they in the country illegally ?

Regardless I am glad the workers get to go home. If it is illegal I’d imagine the company should be at fault.

There are plenty of diverse visas available. Arguing that specific visa is not available and therefore you do not have to follow the law is not an argument I can follow. In my mind that is tantamount to fraud.

America is a very large country and I’m sure if you paid enough, and took the time to train the workers you can find people to do the work. If you have planned your budget and timeline around not taking this path then it seems unethical to me.

I’ve witnessed tech jobs done where there are plenty of capable people in the us available to do the work. They just cannot afford to post us wages and train the workers in the us.

I completely understand that some projects are different, and you need a specific skillset. But if you are going to do work on us soil you have to follow the law.

Sure, but bring them over on the proper visa! Have them train — not compete against the U.S. worker on wages!

The solution is to hire and train people inside the country. To build the knowledge base and skills within the country.

I totally understand that it is universally abused. I’ve seen it abused in white collar work. Companies need to adjust economically and plan their budgets accordingly.

Honestly, in many parts of the country there is no hope, no jobs, and just drugs. It’s time to invest in the U.S. citizen again.

I’m happy there is a crackdown because I have seen U.S. jobs lost due to this behavior. It’s actually the only reason I voted for trump.

Ianal but my understanding is you can’t do any work , even coding, debugging, if you are in the us on a non work visa.

It does not matter who is funding you.

I could be wrong though. I have personally seen companies abuse this. I’m glad it’s be cracked down on.

Is it really that weird that a company would speak from both sides of their mouth ? That is essentially what corporate speak is. That should be the assumed default when a major company says anything.

I’ve had the same feelings. It’s tough for sure.

I’ve pivoted to architecture and higher level problem solving to continue my growth.

I have also found I do my best work when I’m happy. It’s important that the tool works for me and I don’t work for the tool.

I let my son, who is 5, play around with gcompris qt. I think the chess game has helped him learn.

It helps with getting the mouse and keyboard down.

Just walked past this building in person the other day. I had to a triple take when I saw the base. It seems very unintuitive that it could stand safely.

Like smarty streets ?

Rust belt. Many places where opportunity had dried up. Not just the north east, but even Tennessee. It’s low wage jobs or selling drugs, or both.

Isn’t the dollar dominance a bit of a blessing and a curse? Labor rate in U.S. is very high compared to other countries.

It inevitably brings us many benefits, but it does feel like the U.S. and other western countries are being hollowed out.

Maybe this is more of cost disease than dollar dominance. Maybe they are related in some ways?

Honest question— how is this verified for accuracy ? What if there is a bug ?

Yeah, this is prevalent everywhere. It’s pretty crazy. I’m glad I’m not the only one that has noticed this.

I think there is also a category of shared library like a color library. It could be a micro service but also could be a library. Since it is easy to have services upgrade to the newest version of it without having cross dependencies that may make more sense as a library.

I see what you are getting at though.

One topic of debate at my company that I rarely see here is shared libraries vs micro services. Should logic or external calls belong in a shared artifact to be consumed by microservices or hidden away behind an exposed microsercice api?

The truth is that micro services are a tool. However your organization has broadly agreed to utilize the tool is the correct approach.

Is it really to the point of challenging java ? Seems like Java is still the way to go here.

No, the product has a lot of aop and I figure it would be difficult to make that work.

Right. I didn’t started digging into it until I realized the application was clearly sluggish in certain scenarios. As I am doing this for fun I am going to see what kind of speed up I get in rust for this.