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Says Apple in their privacy policies.

If you have even the slightest evidence to the contrary, now is the time to present it.

I question who is arguing in bad faith here.

If you are comparing a panel in the settings app to an ad on the dashboard of a car, I think it’s pretty clearly not me.

Obviously you don’t know the history:

https://appleinsider.com/articles/12/09/26/disagreements-ove...

As for being a second rate app, that was once true, but isn’t now.

https://appleinsider.com/articles/22/05/13/compared-apple-ma...

It seems that you are unaware that Google maps uses location data to make ads follow you around. That seems like a pretty good reason for Apple to protect its users from Google’s data collection machine.

Limits on distribution are limits on use. If you don’t understand that, I suggest you Google for some discussions about why many people don’t use GPL’s software - it’s because the limits on distribution affect their usage.

Fair point about the XCode license being more restrictive than I said.

This doesn’t make sense. Of course you can decide whether to enable Apple Arcade or not. Obviously it’s a paid service, so you have to pay to enable it.

Who is ‘pushing’ you to do anything?

Isn’t that the point? Do you think they shouldn’t have investigated Hillary Clinton?

Why odd? It’s a growing movement in the real world.

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/aug/11/can-cities-ki...

There are no data pathways for aggregating that data. It just gets used by apps.

That does seem like Trump’s position - wrongdoing at the FBI means they shouldn’t investigate politicians like him.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-truth-social-fbi-mar-a-...

[Edit: Added a link for those who don’t follow news about trump.]

It’s almost as if he thinks the FBI might stand in the way of his re-election.

The idea that Tim Cook is Batman is pretty far fetched.

I made no comment about it being right or wrong, and I don’t know whether the grandparent is a trump supporter or not.

The more interesting question is to consider why Trump would hold this view, especially if you disagree with him on other things. Perhaps you don’t have the same assumptions about the reasons why as he does.

Nice goalpost changing. Nobody said it wasn’t bundled into code that ships with the iPhone.

There are ads in the App Store - we agree on that.

Propositionally true but misleading.

Ads are only in the store, not the OS in general.

Your eyes are part of your head, and your head is part of your body.

You have eyes in your head, and not in the rest of your body.

We don’t say you have eyes in your body, even though you can make the logical case for this truth, because it would be misleading in the same way.

The GPL governs use of the licensed software. What you are planning is no relevance. You are limited to what the GPL allows and no more.

This is no different from Apple’s license, which also allows you to use the software freely unless you want to redistribute it.

Prompt or no prompt, if you use GPL software, you are forced to accept the GPL.

And really? Your complaint is a click to agree to a software license? Why does that upset you so much?

You mean the UI to enable the services? Those aren’t ads.

Oh yes?

Sure - but why the anger? Why not direct the anger at Linux. Everyone goes on about how philosophically great it is. Why not be angry that it doesn’t deliver on experience and features?

For sure - you can always give up on computers!

You’re having to work hard. A link to renable a standard feature that was included with the OS is not an ad.

There are no adds for iCloud in the settings app. There is a page where you can pay for the service.

But.. I’ll grant the second - there are ads for Apple News in the stocks app.

So no. There are not “plenty of ads” outside the App Store.

They have ads in the store. Not on iOS in general.

It’s not weird to think it’s the best and that the best is bad. What is weird is to be angry about it.

> And yet, only in MacOS I need to install 670 MB of junk to install, say, git. Why?

With all due respect, it’s very unclear why you are experiencing so much pain over this. It really isn’t a big deal.

Obviously the commenter I was replying to doesn’t think Linux or Windows are good enough, no matter how you ‘set them up’.

> Why do I need GCC for git?

You don’t - but you do need it on Linux to install certain other developer tools. There is nothing unusual about having to install developer tools.

> It wasn't that long ago that Macs had server software out of the box.

So what? Are you saying you didn’t realize MacOS is now aimed at consumers?

Why do you have to reinstall it every year?

The grandparent comment said there is nothing better. Stop and use what?

Did you know that GCC take an unknown time to download, and forces you to accept a license?

I think it’s pretty common knowledge that Macs are sold as consumer machines that don’t include a full tool chain out of the box. Guess what - it’s free to download and sometimes it gets updates.

It’s hard to understand why you are making such a fuss about installing developer tools on a developer machine.

Sometimes I find I have to install gcc or clang or llvm on a Linux machine in order to install some other package. Why would I moan about this?

There is no such requirement.