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I'm advocating for a mass hiring event and huge growth push, not throwing together MVPs with LLMs!

Big dck money. Big dck ROI -- The next great Batman film, a World of Warcraft 2, autonomous robots on the moon, one of those humanoid robots doing my laundry!

The cost to build has dropped considerably, yes, the barrier to entry has lowered, but the bar is raised and valuations have skyrocketed and set records with trillion+ dollar IPOs too. More capital flowing into individual companies than ever before, albeit a small set of companies.

The potential has gone up, 10-fold, 100-fold.

To me, the market is saturated with pickaxe vendors looking for scrap metal miners, that is, model wrappers hoping to be the next wave of SaaS serving a largely misunderstood - disenfranchised (laid off from their jobs, no hope for the future) - customer base (gen y/z developers) that isn't meeting overall sales expectations. Nobody likes AI. Nobody needs it. They're also being told "Hey, don't be developers anymore". It's very confusing messaging!

So you got Google accidentally dominating most of it anyway just by being in everyone's house and pocket. Deer in headlights they're like "Who me?" They weren't even trying. Gemini surprises everyone. Surpasses everyone. Haha. Don't worry, they're doing a lot worse now that they are trying.

I digress, beyond "AI", what is needed is clearly... <AlexCarp>The Application Layer</AlexCarp>

> Those who are building products with AI, probably aren’t advertising the fact.

Perfectly fine - and gets to the spirit of what I'm talking about. Forget AI, focus on the product (and customer).

Not vibe coded...

But vibe... moated...

Vibe... goated...

If you will

So you’re telling me there’s a chance :D

Man I’m sick of Faceboogle!

Isn’t anyone else yearning for some je ne sais quoi

"Photopea: A free Photoshop alternative making millions" –https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33334521

"How Photopea Quietly Beat Adobe into a $2.8M Business" – https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/team-budget-problem-how-photo...

I wouldn't bet against him yet.

LinkedIn was always sooo fake and bad as in it was a living nightmare dystopia some of the shit people would write.

I often wondered: Is this how you get promotions? No way does that actually work or do anything... And then I'm like holy shit is it genuine??? Is this really coming from the heart and I'm the cold, dead, psychopath who can't appreciate a genuinely thoughtful update from a corporate peer?

I had to get out of there.

I'm not on LinkedIn anymore... but I imagine it's even worse now that all the b2b saas posters have gone full agentic.

You never go full agentic.

The ease, extent, and scale at which math integrated with computing along its development makes me wonder if the two fields will effectively enjoin, academically (math and computer programming).

Maybe we will look back on today's math as a kind of arcane, pre-syntactical set of structures that required speakers of the language on both ends interpreting it to make good use of it. No validation or compilation, it can't be applied, just a total wild west - scribbles on a whiteboard and another mathematician making sense of it.

"e=mc^2"

And the Lord's people said: "LGTM"

I was just thinking a "Who is firing?" thread would be more informative than a "Who is hiring?" one in 2026+

That would make this one - "Who is quitting?" the more useful counter to "Who wants to be hired?" (because it's easier for candidates to get placed coming directly from another company rather than hiring someone unemployed).

The hiring manager becomes the firing manager - this is your new hiring pipeline... Or... firing pre-pipeline... wait now I'm confused

There are opportunities to build a new Google without AI. In that case AI creates an opportunity in an unexpected way. If Google goes all-in on AI, the opportunity is wide open for someone else.

And we do see that (Proton, DuckDuckGo, even iCloud is becoming very Google-like in recent years).

As for "AI is not good enough" I remain unconvinced - I've seen production quality work, granted not 1-shot from a model but produced by a talented artist.

I never said AGI, (I believe that's only a marketing term from OpenAI). The other stuff at the end of your comment has nothing to do with what I'm talking about here! I really am focused on the low cost of code, video, and other media compared to the massive opportunity to serve content to people worldwide and how much money and disruptive potential is being left on table.

The world runs on garbage code from millions of repos.

I agree with you that it doesn't replace a person, but it certainly makes code a lot cheaper.

If code is cheaper than ever, and the earning potential is the same. Why aren't investors all over it?

And I'll 1-up your Photoshop example with https://photopea.com

Made by 1 person, I use it literally every day.

Exactly - meaning it doesn't replace employees.

But here's another thought: Code and pixels are still cheaper than ever before.

Another one: The earning potential from code and pixels is the same or greater than it was before AI.

Put it together. If it was real estate where land was cheap but selling at the same rate as before, then investors would be all over it.

Innovation is something you have to believe in - I get that - but from a purely finance perspective why is there not a massive movement to obtain swaths of low cost, high potential IP? Data, engagement, emails and cards on file. Series A-F growth, greater fools and IPOs - either way it's massively generative of productive wealth, and you'll get a few game changers here and there.

I fail to see why it's not a great opportunity for, say, a $1B+ fund in just about any category.

Agree LLMs are more like a calculator than the person who uses it. You actually still need the person to use it! And you want that anyway for accountability and ownership. That's one of the big reasons I think companies should be hoarding AI talent right now.

And 2 - yeah I really mean "product focused" companies, not these YC AI wrapper replicas you see everywhere (no offense to YC but hey, they know what they are doing lol). Those companies must be only there to drive usage to the model providers they wrap.

The disruptive potential is not limited to those who use AI, or those who offer it in their product to end users. The potential is here regardless. Because of the fact workers use it in their workflows - in Adobe software, in their IDE, and so-on, it's effectively here.

The company does not need to do anything special - just hire.

Why is there not an AI hiring spree in tech?

Mainly am asking why those with attention (or VCs who can get it) are not introducing more noise, more content, and more clamoring - as you put it.

I thought that was the whole idea?

Lemon market - maybe - but it remains to be seen IMO. The market seems almost entirely unrealized. There are only a few major AI companies in the media, and it seems like innovation is largely directionless or stalled.

I haven't really seen any "startup boom" for AI yet. It's all the same kind of AI wrapper startup still. The most innovative thing in San Francisco right now is AI complaince.... Compliance... I'll leave you with that.

> If you were the kind of person who could create great art, then you would have found a way to make that art happen before LLMs were made.

I did some fairly pioneering product and visual design work (early to the trends sorta thing) long before AI, over a decade ago:

• https://dribbble.com/shots/1649274-New-Message-flow

• https://dribbble.com/shots/3019741-Get-a-ride

• https://dribbble.com/shots/1800476-Los-Angeles

• https://dribbble.com/shots/3039672-New-message

And I would disagree with that sentiment.

Generative tech just makes it easier to create more things at much greater scale that would be possible without it.

I've used Photoshop and Blender for like 25 years. Lens flare and Filter Gallery - the original "one shot" have always been around. Just because Photoshop and Flash existed it didn't make everyone great at it.

Same is true with this stuff. Some of the best people doing video right now are unbelievably good at it. To your point - they were likely great video editors before AI, but to my point they are being supercharged by it now.

Yeah depends what/why you wanna do.

As a kid I wanted to make games when I got older, I always saw learning to program as a means to that end.

It wasn’t until I was deep into my career that I started developing all these preferences and ego and suddenly caring about the craft of the craft - specializing in work I never imagined spending so much time and energy on, career aspects I never meant to work into my personal identity.

Part of me feels a huge sense of relief with LLMs and image gen - because finally I don’t have to be the maniac anymore! The machine can be the machine again, I don’t have to sit at an IDE for 13 hours grinding out tedium.

Now I can make games, now I can do art.

In that sense it’s a lot like the early arts and literature movements - a renaissance - where the printing press, canvas, international finance, and the enabling of the rapid production of ideas paid off tremendously in the following decades and centuries.

We’ll get great films, games, stories, and research because of this stuff. And then great innovation - stuff we could not do without it at unimaginable scales.

> K8s doesn't run containers, container runtime environments do.

> K8s sits on top of those and orchestrates them.

> I'm not actually interested in debating over the meaning

Ok.

Did you know that k8s came after containerization, and means nothing without it

1. Familiarity with all GL APIs, but deep focus on 1 or 2.

If you want to work with Windows, probably DirectX.

2. Make awesome shaders. Check this out: https://fragcoord.xyz

I would say being a long-time user of Photoshop and Blender helps a lot. It's not a main tool, but supplemental. Maybe AI will take over some of this though.

Hell, maybe that other stuff too, hahaha!

Nope, I don't think (and don't think I said) it's a VM, or that it can allow you to run any software on any hardware. I have been coding long enough to remember using VirtualBox to do Ruby work for clients :)

I may have alluded to that experience - in saying that we used to use VMs for the same use case (isolation) before mainstream containerization like Docker. But yeah I know the two are unrelated.

The idea of installing software in an isolated (emulated) environment - a snapshot of the OS ("disk image") - is not so different from the PSX emulator analogy since emulators also work that way.

Docker got popular before Kubernetes was even created. It was after the fact that it became its own thing, and tried to become just an "orchestration layer" but it means nothing without containerization.

To say you ported it to the browser with no working containers doesn't mean anything to me. What was ported?

It's like saying you ported PlayStation to Chrome but no games will play. How is it a port of anything.

Kubernetes runs on the infrastructure where your services are deployed.

That is not happening here. This is a simulation of a web based kubernetes control plane.

The whole point of the movement toward Docker/kubernetes is that you can run services anywhere without needing a 1:1 OS/physical machine configured for that service. It's an evolution on hijacking VMs for this use case. Consider what this technology is, and is for.

To say it has been ported to the browser would mean I could run e.g. postgres service in my browser the same way installing kubernetes on some cloud provider lets me run it there without having access to that machine directly.

He hasn't ported kubernetes to a browser. If I use some cloud provider UI to configure kubernetes I would not say that k8s is running in that browser tab. I'd just be using a web based dashboard.

Yes it can visualize activity, logs, etc. but kubernetes is not actually provisioning, managing state, scheduling, etc. in its environment (the browser) the way it did in an OS environment. And correct me if I'm wrong - but it's not even calling out to other environments - these are mere simulations of services that aren't running anywhere. Aren't they?

It wouldn't be impossible to do what the title implies is happening - See JSLinux to actually see Linux in a browser. It aint pretty, but that's the kind of thing I'd think of if somebody said they ported kubernetes to the browser. I should be able to run stuff there.

Right/Wrong is almost useless in 2026+

People will know they are wrong, but if they are supporting a friend's case or boss's they will choose them over you (naturally) even if you can definitively prove them wrong. There's upside and often no downside to being wrong or even outright lying in some cases, so people do it.

People will know 1 of the 4 in the group is right, but they don't want to be outnumbered or cast in an unfavorable light, so they will all choose the "wrong" stance on purpose, to be more socially accepted.

100% of people in a conversation can know that 1 person is right, but because nobody likes that person, nobody will agree with them.

You might be right a lot but that isn't going to help you win any arguments. It nearly means nothing. You get from a group what you negotiate with the group, and short of showering everyone in $100 bills daily nobody is going to worship you for anything, especially not "being right a lot". You're better off being conventionally attractive rather than conventionally intelligent (when it comes to easy social acceptance).

Furthermore, there are so many battlefields, so many arguments to lose, you'll eventually (hopefully) find a better use of your time!

I am not redefining what a port is – but you are

No amount of whining is going to change anything.

The only thing that would change my opinion is if it actually worked.

And I don't think I was being insulting at all.

What I replied to:

"pretty clear you don't know well enough what you are talking about" is the real insult in this thread, which is what I called out :) Those statements are so boring and don't prove anything. Anyone can say "You don't know what you are talking about" but he hasn't proven anything. It's just an empty insult.

Making letters lower/upper to stress emphasis in a reply to that is part of conveying that.

You haven't changed my mind at all so far, I still think this doesn't qualify as a port.

Question for you: What would you use this project for in production? How could I replace k8s today with this browser port?

Mostly agree with the timeline.

I would say that advertising took over the consumer web ushering in censorship and extreme word policing to satisfy family (ad) friendly content - starting in 2010ish with influencer marketing.

(Anyone remember Klout?)

By 2016, with Trump and DEI and everything else (ZIRP), Old Money took over the industry side - hiring, equity, liquidity.

At some point tech jobs became all white collar. All “IC” (then coined) were being funneled into generalist full stack engineer increasing the fungibility of labor to a point you even could do leveling and layoffs.

I digress, we as technologists and creatives need to be constantly making new ways, new things, and staying ahead, so we can always have the golden years because we’re always operating at the cutting edge.

Like it or not, we are currently in a time with AI that many will look back on fondly.

Someday someone will write “the AI I grew up with doesn’t exist” and it really won’t, once everyone else really gets their hands on it, it pervades industry, and becomes curricularized into whatever the markets want.

This “port” doesn’t even do that

Save the insults. Make points.

mAnY lAyERs aside if it doesn’t actually do anything you have not ported anything.

It has to WORK to be a port.

See the PlayStation emulator example - same thing. The game itself is not ported but it still runs. That’s the point!

It’s like saying you ported PlayStation to the browser but no games work.

It would be the most pointless emulator ever.

And it wouldn’t qualify as being ported IMO

Imagine if Steam or App Store or Google Play or anybody serious said:

"We approved 4 new games today"

Dead platform.

sub optimal for who? ;)

A long time ago I was working for a mid tier founder up in Oregon.

Pipe dream of a startup, no customers, no product. Money and vision, but no direction and the main problem was that nobody would ever tell him "No" (me included) - to everyone's great detriment.

He would certainly fail at this endeavor...

He was the main investor, after all.

At some point we brought on web marketing help - he knew people at Nike. To my surprise, they actually partnered with us - Nike! He also co-owned a web design agency in Portland, so I started working with designers and marketers there.

When I would travel there, he always set me up in the same hotel. Turns out (a year later), he owned it. He owned the damn laundromat next door, too, because it was adjacent to the apartment complex he owned.

After literally 1 beer, we were now going to do a live, in person event in Portland - he knew people and could make it happen. He owned the building where the event would take place.

At the event he started asking if I'd ever leave San Francisco, if I liked Portland. We started talking about rent and stuff.

I find out he's a landlord there - owns several single-family homes (with awful cyclone fencing) and has tenants around Portland. He starts telling me prices etc. Asks me what people are paying in SF. We both laugh over how expensive SF is - sun shafts illuminating our amber beer glasses as we drink to... Idk what.

What happened was I found out that he was rich as fuck, and owned the god damn town, and everything else. His startup was a joke and failed - but who cares, it was a frame in a movie. I cared about it more than he did.

Sub optimal for who??

Considering what kubernetes actually is - there's a fantastic use case if you really did port it to the browser. So when someone says they did it, I kinda expect that they literally ported that containerization logic to JavaScript.

That would mean I could run an image of an OS like Linux in browser JavaScript. It's a wild thing, but that's what porting literally means! And what I expected with that title.

Think of like a PlayStation emulator... the game itself does not need to be ported - just as if you really made a k8s port you would not really need to reinvent Linux in JS, only be able to run it

A PSX emulator can be said to have been ported (e.g. Tomb Raider has been ported to the browser even though it relies on underlying C++) because it ultimately runs fully 1:1 in a web page. It's a port as far as I'm concerned.

But a k8s port that doesn't do what k8s does isn't a port IMO

To me the interesting part is the use case.

To call it a port that doesn’t actually work? Idk seems like a baseline requirement.

It’s like saying you ported YouTube to a calculator but it doesn’t play videos because the most interesting part is the search algorithm, and it’s for educational purposes not functionality.

That just isn’t a port.

Sure - but to use another analogy...

If someone said they "ported git to the browser" but it was just a UI for git workflows it would be equally misleading.

I think because that isn't what "porting" is.

In such a case I would expect git - the version control code and diffing - running in browser JavaScript in the same way DOOM is when someone says they ported DOOM to the browser.

That's what porting means, right?

Since there are k8s bindings written in languages like Node.js (effectively a port) - and even they don't call it "a port" is worth considering for OP with regards to the title! Just my 2c

Right, that's what I thought - still very cool!

Just a misleading title, I think.

It's not "k8s ported to the browser" so much as a web based monitoring tool.

Looks great, btw.