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Even the Tax Foundation, which is a biased source that is anti-tax in general states that the effective rate for the top bracket was 6% higher then than it is today (https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/taxes-on-the-rich...)
We used to tax the rich much more than we do now, and government bureaucrats were not obscenely wealthy then as you seem to be implying.
Also, the US government spends more money than it accrues every year, so there isn't any consolidation of money happening in the government (nor will there be if taxes go up).
As someone who thinks wealth inequality is a huge problem in the US - I'm genuinely curious as to what you would propose to address this problem "directly". Because to me, this tax proposal is addressing it directly.
Really curious to hear what that was, because I'm having a hard time believing that is true.
Public services can be regulated and have oversight, too. What properties do private services have that make them more amenable to being regulated?
An "appeal to authority" means something more specific (e.g. the logical fallacy "argument from authority") and this is not happening here.
The whole point I'm trying to make is that we should evaluate the writing based on its content. The person I originally responded to was dismissing it solely because of the person who wrote it (which ironically an ad hominem is a fallacy very similar to an appeal to authority but for the opposite reason).
Do you not think that society should have an interest in ensuring that children are properly nurtured, educated, cared for, etc.?
Either the term "cumulative" is being used incorrectly, or different rules are being used to classify available jobs in each graph.
Maybe the first chart is filtering out duplicates?
This is a totally subjective statement. For me its the opposite: All I seem to see there in replies lately are tweets about culture war bullshit talking points that are 100% noise and 0% intellectual value.
> Because it's not censored to high hell.
Except in Turkey, apparently
Hopefully this is sarcasm, because in reality the opposite is true (except for the leaner part).
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/technology/twitter-ad-sal...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/twitter-is-now-worth-a-third-of...
Your belief is strictly faith-based, without evidence.
> My evidence for this is that there’s a reason nobody has put a price they’re willing to pay out.
You don't know that, because you aren't privvy to all of the conversations that developers have been having with Reddit regarding pricing.
> You see it as one where Reddit has killed 3rd party apps.
I don't just "see it", it's already happened:
https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/144f6xm/apollo_w...
https://www.reddit.com/r/redditisfun/comments/144gmfq/rif_wi...
I don't think this "movement" of third-party client developers is as organized as you think it is, but the Apollo developer did mention discussing pricing with Reddit here[1] and compared Reddit's API pricing to Imgur. Note that he never mentioned any expectation of "free", just that it was about 100x more expensive. I'm really not sure why you can't accept their intentions as being truthful or valid.
>My belief is that it’s because if they announce a number that is not $0, then everyone is going to find out that a lot of people are demanding free API access.
That sounds extremely unrealistic to me, but you don't have any evidence to support this so I'm not sure what else there is to say about it.
> “Reddit is killing 3rd-party apps” is a disingenuous statement.
It's not, because once they are forced to pass on the costs to their customers they will certainly lose a significant percentage of them. It's impossible to say exactly how many, but it's reasonable to assume that it could cost enough to make their app no longer viable. Again, not sure why that is so hard to believe.
> Is any app even planning to charge the new prices? If they don’t, then they’re killing themselves.
I'm not sure I understand this comment. Obviously all third party clients will be forced to pass on these costs to their customers if they go in to effect because they won't have a choice. I mean, it's so obvious that I'm not even sure why you are mentioning it.
>Honestly it’s a great campaign by the app makers to whip users up into a frenzy like this because it means more profit for themselves if Reddit backs down on the API pricing.
I'm completely baffled as to why you are unable to see this from the point of view of the app developer. Just put yourself in their shoes - if a critical dependency of yours started charging X times what they were charging before, it throws off your entire business plan and may make it no longer viable. Are you saying you wouldn't do anything to try and prevent that from happening before you had to change your whole business plan around in an attempt to stave off what will very likely be the death of your company?
[1] https://old.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/13ws4w3/had_a_ca...
That's a strawman. The complaint isn't that Reddit is charging money for API usage, it's that the pricing is extremely expensive.
> But the reality is that Reddit literally gave them an option.
Charging an exorbitant fee that will most likely kill all third-party clients isn't really an option, but ok.
> It’s like the “we’ve tried nothing and are all out of ideas” meme.
This is a very inaccurate analogy, and it makes me think you are missing the point of the complaints entirely.
> There’s no such thing as a free lunch.
Again, no one is demanding free API access.
We're talking about the fact that Reddit's API prices are going to be extremely high going forward. Your response was a dismissive "just charge 9 dollars". Obviously that is going to cause a lot of pain for all third party developers, which is the whole reason why everyone is complaining about this.
Is that true? From this article[1], it sounds like he had been pushing for cheap headsets, not expensive ones:
> There he talked about his internal efforts to push for the development of a "super cheap, super lightweight" Meta VR headset that could come in at "$250 and 250 grams." Instead, Meta has put its recent VR hardware efforts behind the heavily overdesigned and expensive $1,500 Quest Pro. "We're not building that [cheap, light] headset today, but I keep trying," Carmack said with some exasperation during the keynote.
[1] https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2022/12/john-carmack-leaves-m...
In a way you're both right - software developers (usually) don't create/design/sell the entire product end-to-end, but they no doubt are a critical piece of the process. That gives them leverage.