paulhebert

I much preferred your first draft just so you know. It actually has some character and feels human.

This is cool! Thanks for sharing

I’m not a very good woodworker but I enjoy it.

I’ve got a few wobbly pieces of furniture around the house. I love them!

I’ve also got a bookcase my dad made back when he was in shop class. And my mom has been using a cutting board I made her for the last 20 years.

I’m also a bad potter but love drinking out of the mugs I made and eating out of the bowls I made.

I love the artwork my friends and family have made even if they’re not super talented. It’s up on the walls.

IKEA stuff is fine. I have some, but I don’t feel much emotion around it. It gets the job done and not much more. (Though in my experience it’s not very sturdy and falls apart faster than handmade stuff.)

I would also add that back in the day there were a lot more craftsmen making high quality furniture for purchase. A lot of them have been driven out of business and so now buying that type of thing is much more expensive.

Ahh I misunderstood the hypothetical then. I assumed I was picking one piece to keep and display forever but I could still enjoy other art.

I’d go mad if the only art available was AI art as well!

You think most people don’t pay for movies, music, games, clothing with designs, art, etc.?

I would encourage you to read this article that articulates the issues with DHH’s blog posts better than I can:

https://jakelazaroff.com/words/dhh-is-way-worse-than-i-thoug...

Thats part of the issue. People prefer human made art and then people feel tricked when they find out it’s AI art.

I would definitely choose my niece’s drawing for all time. Do you have young family members? That seems like a bizarre perspective to me.

That assumes that AI is only used in place of stock imagery.

In reality it is seeping into our lives at an alarming rate which I worry is disrupting our shared sense of reality (which was already tenuous.)

AI has capabilities that were impossible (or very difficult before.) You could easily generate a realistic video of me saying terrible things or kicking a puppy or doing a pornographic act. You could clone my voice and call my grandma asking for money. It’s very hard to tell what is real now and it will get harder as the capabilities improve.

These tools are also much more accessible than photo editing software. Before, few people had the skill to create realistic fakes. Now anyone can do it. This has led to a flood of fake images, videos, and text online. This crowds out real humans and makes it hard to know what is real. My older relatives especially have Facebook feeds filled with fake content they think is real.

The capabilities combined with the scale make it hard to know what is real in a way Photoshop never did.

You don’t think it’s fair to factor how art was created into your judgment?

You think that no one who criticizes AI pays for human artwork?

That is a bizarre stance

The definition of prejudice requires the judgment to be unfair.

Do you think it’s unfair for people to dislike AI generated art based on their principles?

There is a big difference between a real image or video that has been modified and one that was created out of thin air via AI

I think you’d be surprised by how many people feel that way but it’s hard to say for sure.

What did you think about my other examples? (The bookshelf and the microwaved meal)

By many people’s criteria it automatically is worse, because part of what they value in art is thinking about the artist and their intentions behind their creation.

Similarly people may view an IKEA book stand as worse quality than one built by hand even if the hand built one has flaws. Or they might view a microwaved meal as worse than that created by a home chef.

People value the human intention and care that goes into creations. Without that it’s worse even if the output is fundamentally the same.

A drawing by my young niece may not have the same finesse as an AI generated one but I like it a whole lot more

Why would I want that for a form with buttons?

It sounds painful to debug

I’m not the person you asked but I’m also confused by this use case.

Most restaurants have a web UI which is very simple and easy to use.

I don’t really want to argue with you about whether DHH is far right because it’s tangential to the main point of the article and based on your response I don’t think we’d agree.

It’s not about “giving money to a website” it’s about the fact that Digital Ocean purchased a business and hired an employee and then ghosted that employee and stopped paying them (without firing them or shuttering the business.) Thats messed up

Here’s a section from the Wikipedia page on far right politics:

> Key to the far-right worldview is the notion of societal purity, often invoking ideas of a homogeneous community based on cultural, ethnic, national, racial, or religious lines or a combination of them

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

Here’s a quote from DHH’s post “As I Remember London”

> London is no longer the city I was infatuated with in the late '90s and early 2000s. Chiefly because it's no longer full of native Brits

https://world.hey.com/dhh/as-i-remember-london-e7d38e64

It sounds like DHH is talking about “societal purity” and is “invoking ideas of a homogeneous community based on cultural, ethnic, national, racial, or religious lines”

If he is, then that sure seems like far right politics to me.

The author of the post (Vale) is talking about how the editor of CSS Tricks (Geoff) is not being paid by the owner of CSS Tricks (Digital Ocean)

This is not the first issue since Digital Ocean acquired CSS Tricks.

I’d encourage you to educate yourself more on the situation instead of discounting people as “far-left” (whatever you think that means in this context)

The author of this post is not complaining that they are not being paid.

The editor of CSS Tricks who was hired by Digital Ocean is the one who is not getting paid.

I think it is morally in the right for employees to get paid by their employers

I wonder if they’re training heavily on Claude generated content or conversation transcripts

Have you tried this? How did it go?

I’d be curious about:

- your setup. How it all works - The types of errors it fixed and how quickly - Any regressions or issues it caused - The cost

Thanks!

Yeah that’s totally fair!

I guess that type of “clout” feels different to me.

Wanting to be validated by peers for your talents in a niche field vs. using millions to try to solve a math problem that you don’t really care about with AI to market the gigantic company you work for.

Okay. I agree with all that you said in your latest comment.

From your first comment it seemed like you were disagreeing with me but I’m not sure how.

That’s why I asked for clarification.

Edit: BTW I’m a web developer and designer, Not a mathematician

No need to be rude. I didn’t want to misinterpret when responding.

I can see how what is happening to mathematicians is similar to what is happening to coding.

I’m not sure what your broader point is? Mathematicians shouldn’t be upset? Coders should? Something else?

Sorry I’m not entirely sure what you’re trying to say

Do you really think people dedicate their life to mathematics for clout?

If clout was the goal I don’t think becoming a lifelong mathematics academic would be the first step

That matches my experience with AI writing in software engineering so I’m not surprised

These mathematicians dedicated their life to math and were working for a long time to achieve the pinnacle of their careers.

OpenAI just burned millions of dollars over a weekend after hearing that someone else was close to solving the problems. Their interest was in their AI system more than the actual math problems.

Don’t you see how that’s different?

Really?

I’ve asked that question all the time throughout my career. Lots of promotions. No firings or layoffs.

Why would you lose your job?