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Arguing from the existence of legislation regulating how to dispose of large numbers of animals or dead soldiers is an ad hominem and an obviously disingenuous argument. In a previous age, this would be understood to be an incredibly stupid way to argue, and I pity you for being incapable of seeing that.
Meanwhile, bring evidence.
2. "This incinerator can burn 20000 kg/day of trash" != "This can burn 150 bodies"
3. Is this being used in Ukraine? Are there any of these devices in Russia?
The truck that someone posted looks like it could fit two bodies and gets to 1200 degrees, which I guess works with your partial cremation theory (full cremation needs 1800-2000 degrees). It doesn't seem to me that fitting 2 bodies into the incinerator, then adding an additional "get rid of these half-burnt bodies" step, really changes my point much.
> That getting rid of corpses at scale is a problem they pay substantial attention to.
Yes, because again, they are probably the only military in the world engaged in conventional, symmetrical combat at their scale. Advanced nations like the US will just drop a bomb on a peasant wedding in Baluchistan and let the locals do the clean up. It's much more efficient, and as a bonus, provides a great boost to the local funerary economy as well.
I'm not sure what you think these regulations prove. AFAIK Russia is probably the only military of its size engaged in operations that would result in mass field casualties of soldiers, what should they do?
Running non-stop with no breaks, bodies ready to go, matching the efficiency of the most optimal stationary crematories, working around the clock, a single truck could burn 12 bodies using 336 gallons of fuel (per https://www.lng2019.com/how-much-natural-gas-is-used-to-crem...) and generating 6.6 metric tons of CO2. For this to even make sense politically, there would have to be a number of bodies so large that burning it made more sense than anything else, even with how costly and obvious it would be to observers.
I'm open to your guesses, but I'm going to say one thousand innocents in a single place would be sufficiently atrocious. I say this because numbers like 100-200 are thrown around fairly casually when reporting on Ukraine and other locations, so I'm going up one magnitude from that. So 84 trucks working as described could finish this job in one day, releasing 5,500 metric tons of CO2 and consuming 2300+ gallons of fuel to do so. I leave it to the reader to determine whether it's plausible for a military in the midst of a very difficult war to dedicate the human and supply resources necessary to conduct such an operation (at peak efficiency, as described).
At the very least, the movement and fueling of 84 such trucks (or even 30 if we're spending a week doing this) should be observable. We shouldn't have to rely on video from 2013 to make these claims. The video most often shown as proof of Russia's mobile crematories is one of a mobile incinerator, e.g. for trash which can fully combust in minutes.
This is a rhetorical or satirical commentary on the fact that media technology, while having the superficial capacity for increasing access to and quality of information, often has the opposite effect of what one might expect despite that capacity. That is, it just as frequently and even more adeptly appears to embed and reinforce deeply pre-existing biases towards false -- even obviously so -- narratives which are comforting or reaffirm the believer's sense that they see through the confusion of world events.
The answers to "by whom", and "so what" questions are not going to be literal answers, just like "at what precise moment did you stop sleeping and become awake this morning" has no true answer, but would only invite a debate over the definitions of sleeping and waking. It's not meant to literally be a story about a time I was told something. I was told many things, by many people, in various forms, over a long period of time.
The comment is meant to provoke the reader to consider that technology -- far from giving man the ability to conquer his nature -- emanates from man's nature, is a servant to it, and can easily serve to reinforce and entrench it. Therefore, one ought to treat technological progress carefully, and not assume that it is equivalent to human progress.
2. So your opinion is based on even less knowledge than what that article contains?
"Whoa hey bring it down several notches, extremist."
My only hope is that the NYT grows even larger and more "successful", so that more of you can have the experience of having your field, your work, or you personally written about with their signature erroneous confidence.
- who has no relevant experience in anything being discussed,
- works for an outlet which has shown countless times that it cannot reliably and accurately report on nearly any field and
- whose primary experience has been in taking dictation from the FDA
over one of your peers, who
- has worked in the relevant industry, and the relevant company
- puts his name next to his words, and
- has given you a first person account of what he's seen and done, including acknowledging his own blind spots
If your instincts are to invest immovable faith in the belief that the latter is absolutely lying, based on facts related to you by the former, you are epistemically ruined beyond hope.
Can we please stop perpetuating the idea that the NYT is a reputable source?
A flippant dismissal of OP's firsthand account requires something a bit more substantial than "I found an article printed in an outlet that has been on a decade-long mission to demonize the tech industry, or any other industry remotely worthy of the term."
They have, at this point, shown they're willing to print nearly anything if it damages their cultural opponents. Any facts they report should prompt corroboration from reputable sources.
Banging your drum even more loudly doesn't change the fact that you are off beat.
[0] https://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/opinion/sunday/from-rags-...
1. accept compensation in ISOs, likely taking a salary hit
2. exercise, and pay AMT in the exercise year on the spread
3. hold until you can sell, but at least for 12+ months so you qualify for LTCG treatment
So you get hit with a lower cash comp in (1) which is an opportunity cost. Then you have to pay taxes in (2) maybe well before the stock is ever liquid in any way. Then you still have to wait for liquidity (3).
Plus normally the company does not tell you, an ordinary employee, when its beginning fundraising. If it did, you could at least time your exercise so as to minimize spread.
Conversely if I want to take a bet on a public company which I have no relationship to, I just buy and hold. Why is it easier to get favorable treatment for a company I have nothing to do with, versus one that I helped build?
> more if you count donations of time, physical labor and material
Surely you can see that "get the best person you can for $40k" has limitations as a hiring strategy.
"It is possible for a man to provide care" is not the same statement as "it is possible for a sexually dimorphic species in a competitive, capitalistic society (...add more qualifications here) to develop a male-dominated caretaking role"
You're just asserting that you could imagine male nurses without creating a logical contradiction, unlike e.g. circles that have corners. That doesn't mean nursing could be a male-dominated industry under current constraints.
The quality of the evidence for this, as with almost all social science and much of psychology, is extremely low bordering on just certified opinions. I would love to understand why you think otherwise.
> Obviously there are things with much larger effects, that doesn't mean that this doesn't exist.
What a hedge. How should we estimate the size of this effect, so that we can accurately measure whether/when the self-appointed hall monitors are doing more harm than good?
Are the logical divisions you make in your mind really indicative of anything other than your arbitrary personal preferences?
It's amazing that you people are still arguing this in earnest so far down the thread. Can you think for a second what the implications of this would mean for society, if it were an acceptable form of "negotiation"? It would be even worse for the ordinary little people.
For any popular topic, there are self-appointed watchdogs who will revert edits in bad faith and argue with you on the Talk page until you give up and go away. There aren't enough admins to adjudicate all disputes, so what you're reading on a controversial topic is often the product of the most stubborn arguers.
That's how the sausage is made on WP.
Lastly, of course, this opens the way to non-Linux OSes receiving support as well.
If you just search the web for "Nvidia issues Linux" you'll see quite a few complaints. Particularly from people who have obscure configurations -- they pretty much had no chance of getting anything to work.