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notmtaemployee··on How we slowed the subway down
A couple of thoughts:

The approach you describe to measure speed from the motor position is essentially what subway cars use. Ignoring wheel slip, which is not a rare phenomenon, this approach works very well. However, when you defer maintenance, things operated in harsh environments _will_ eventually break down.

(Within the context of the issues mentioned by the linked 2018 NY Post article) Speedometers were (bizarrely) judged as non-critical parts (i.e., the car can still be used in service with it broken) because, after all, the signaling system will catch any over-speed, thus the repair, and more importantly the maintenance, of speedometers was not prioritized. Thankfully most of Cuomo's goons and bean counters have been pushed out.

As for the wayside speed enforcement, the author only briefly touched on the solutions to the problem described in the article, but it's known as Communications Based Train Control (CBTC)[1]. It's a moving block system (compared to current fixed block signals) that used train speed, track geometry, and the location of other trains to determine maximum safe operating speed.

I would argue that it's not "maddening" to control subway speed with electro-mechanical timing mechanisms, control lengths, etc. This was cutting edge in the 1920s & 1930s, and indeed some of the oldest signaling in the system is from that era (though thankfully, the amount is decreasing).

It is however maddening to decide in 1995, given other existing speed control solutions at the time (coded track circuits, CBTC, axle counters) to expand the use of these timers. But as the saying goes if you have a hammer, everything is a nail.

Even more maddening is how slow the subway's transition to CBTC has been. NYCT was an early leader, with the Canarsie line being one of the first brown-field re-signaling jobs (not to mention a 24/7 railway), and then the program just seemed to languish under management that didn't see CBTC's value or the need for modernization (could write pages on this). Thankfully the new cadre of people at 2 Broadway has put the CBTC program into high gear, with 4 (5?) lines under various stages resignaling at the movement.

As a bonus tidbit: the wheel slip issue mentioned above is fixed in CBTC operations with the inclusion of a free axle, equipped with no motor or breaks, thus never experiencing a lack of adhesion. Passive RFID balise's placed at known intervals (i.e. loaded into the train) allow the train to then audit (while in operation) how far its estimated position and speed have deviated from where it truly is. Some CBTC systems also have car-brone backups based on accelerometers or rail-facing doppler radars.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communications-based_train_con...

notmtaemployee··on How Politics and Bad Decisions Starved New York’s Subways
The subway used to be controlled by the city which lead to politicians keeping the fairs intentionally low to gain popular support. In 1968 the city could no longer afford fund the subway and it was transferred to newly created Metropolitan Commuter Transportation Authority, which was renamed to today's Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

The city retaking control of subway raises the question of who will pay for the operation and capital costs. The MTA derives allot of its funding from tolls through the Triborough Bridge and Tunnel Authority which generated $1.8 Billion in 2016. It's unlikely the state will give TBTA back as well.

notmtaemployee··on How Politics and Bad Decisions Starved New York’s Subways
The MTA's problems begin and end at a weak senior management unwilling to standup to Cuomo's frivolous micromanagement and a transit union unwilling to modernize.

Politicians should be pushing for serious procurement and labor work rule reforms, otherwise the systemic managerial and operational deficiencies will ensure that the deterioration of service we see now will repeat it self in 5 to 10 years, regardless of how much money or technology is poured into the MTA.

London and Toronto have been able to modernize much of their transit systems in last 5 years and its not because they have more money. Once you fix the top everything else will fall into place.

Look what Andy Byford has been able to do in 4 short years at the TTC. His 5-Year Plan to modernize the TTC focused on transforming corporate culture and updating internal processes, in addition to new equipment. The results of these changes have been overwhelmingly positive with the TTC recently being named best public transit agency in North America and The TR Class of TTC subway cars in May having a MDBF of over 924,000 miles.

If your interested in getting involved with transit activism in NYC I highly suggest you follow @2AvSagas on twitter.

notmtaemployee··on New York’s Subways Are Not Just Delayed, Some Trains Don’t Run at All
When NYCT overlay's CBTC signalling on a line the block wayside system is upgraded at the same time and the two systems work in tandem. This allows non-CBTC equipped trains to operate over CBTC controlled territory and the wayside system functions as a backup should CBTC fail for any reason.

As you point the integration work for this is complex and is usually the primary driver of delays and cost increases.

notmtaemployee··on New York’s Subways Are Not Just Delayed, Some Trains Don’t Run at All
The MTA's problems begin and end at a weak senior management unwilling to standup to Cuomo's frivolous micromanagement and a transit union unwilling to modernize.

Politicians should be pushing for serious procurement and labor work rule reforms, otherwise the systemic managerial and operational deficiencies will ensure that the deterioration of service we see now will repeat it self in 5 to 10 years, regardless of how much money or technology is poured into the MTA.

London and Toronto have been able to modernize much of their transit systems in last 5 years and its not because they have more money. Once you fix the top everything else will fall into place.

Look what Andy Byford has been able to do in 4 short years at the TTC. His 5-Year Plan to modernize the TTC focused on transforming corporate culture and updating internal processes, in addition to new equipment. The results of these changes have been overwhelmingly positive with the TTC recently being named best public transit agency in North America and The TR Class of TTC subway cars in May having a MDBF of over 924,000 miles.

If your interested in getting involved with transit activism in NYC I highly suggest you follow @2AvSagas on twitter.

notmtaemployee··on ArcaOS 5.0 now available: new OS/2 distribution
They run Windows NT 4 on the mvm and even have a custom badged start up screen http://salim.virji.net/pix/transit/mta/crashed_metrocard_ven...

The OS/2 stuff is used on the back end of the metro card system.

notmtaemployee··on Ways we could make trains safer and smarter
Having more and tighter blocks is a distraction, it requires significant maintenance of way (MOW) resources and track time access which is limited to begin with in systems like New York.

The real solution is deploying moving block signals based on Communications-based train control (CBTC) which uses passive rfid balise's placed at known intervals and highly precise tachometers and odometers on the train. This allows any maintenance that needs to be conducted to be done offline, simply drive the train to the dedicated maintenance facility. With CBTC the only item needed to inspect on the right of way is radio system which can be done safely from the cat walk, ie. no need for track access or flagging.

This is what has been done for the Canarsie and Flushing Lines (except they also tie into the existing block signalling to support non cbtc compatible trains). CBTC allows for tighter headway's (more tph) and automatic train operation meaning reducing employe costs (trains drive themselves).

GPS is just a big distraction and should be avoided for mass transit and reserved basically for dark territory PTC.

notmtaemployee··on Ways we could make trains safer and smarter
For what its worth you can run a red signal if you go slow enough over the trip, however doing this without approval from rcc will get you suspended or more
notmtaemployee··on Using Ms. Pac-Man to Train the Next Generation of Military Drones
Generally its the opposite, technology developed by the military is co-opted by the civilian sector.

Anyways all these new "AI" memes don't change anything, the weapons are just as lethal as they are today. All that's changing is more and more personal is no longer needed in the field and can be seated behind a desk. For the foreseeable future humans will still be involved in the decision to engage (kill) someone. When the day comes and robots will decide who they want to engage without a human in the loop, than we should really be afraid.

notmtaemployee··on New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair
The MTA actually doesn't run a deficit, both their operational and capital budgets are fully funded.

The MTA overall is pretty fiscally responsible (im sure you can always find more waste to cut, but that's true of any organization) but is sadly overly reliant on debt to fund its capital program because the city, state and federal no longer really fund transit. This has lead to to about 15-20% of its operational budget to be dedicated to debt service, ie. money not being used for actual transit operation. Furthermore each year the money from the various emergency and rainy day funds in the operational budge that are not spent, are used to make additional contributions (above what is already budgeted each year) to the various befit and pensions obligations.

Unfortunately this good fiscal responsibility also means that the governor can screw the MTA out 65 million $ and get away with it because they can manage the loss. http://nyc.streetsblog.org/2017/03/14/state-assembly-wants-t...

notmtaemployee··on New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair
Platform doors are generally installed when you install modern signalling (CBTC) onto a line, which much of the NYC subway does not have. CBTC equipped trains can operate under Automatic Train Operation (ATO) meaning that trains can be made to always stop at the same location on the platform.

Furthermore, platform doors require you to have trains that have the doors in the same positions on the car body, which much of the newer subway fleet (R142,R188 & R143,R160,R179) has but the legacy fleet does not. This issue get compounded even more where multiple lines intersect (which is often due to the NYC subway's unique connectedness) requiring that certain stations would need to support 3 or 4 different car classes.

notmtaemployee··on New York Has a Great Subway, If You’re Not in a Wheelchair
Platform doors are not just for preventing falls onto the right of way, they also help to reduce litter, reduce delays due trains coming into stations slowly because of overcrowding and allow stations to be air conditioning.
notmtaemployee··on Carlsbad, CA to photograph every car entering city
EzPass toll tags being read outside toll areas is very common through out the tri-state area. The project mahyarm mentioned below is called "Midtown in Motion" where the tags are used to control the traffic light timing dynamically throughout the day (with humans overseeing too). You can find the readers placed usually behind information signs that are mounted on gantries or just plain in the open on traffic lights: https://b-i.forbesimg.com/kashmirhill/files/2013/09/Screen-S...

The other uses for the tag data include generating real time travel time to NYC airports from certain location in the metro area, as well as the data is fed into planning and road maintenance authorities.

Finally related to the article about taking a picture of every car, this is really nothing new as every car that drives into Manhattan has its plate read regardless of which bridge or tunnel you take, and those ALPR's are operated by NYPD... https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/20/Brookyn_Bridg...

Read more here: https://www.aclu.org/blog/free-future/newly-obtained-records...

notmtaemployee··on A Silicon Valley Train Gets Stuck
Which cars are you referring to?? The new haven line M8's are some of the newest rail cars in the country, if not the newest.

I know there are some M2 sets still sometimes used but those will be replaced once the 30-60 some odd bar car sets come in.

Also on a separate note, you really can't fault the MTA here for running old cars, they actually do some pretty good maintenance on there fleets both commuter and subway. Running old cars is about maximizing the invest in your fleet, the average lifetime generally being around 40 years.

It seems the MTA learnt there lesson with differed maintanance after the 80's. Just look at the current state of MBTA to the north or WAMTA to the south (it also helps the MTA has a large dedicated funding stream which allot of other transit properties in US lack)