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Are open web APIs becoming the new IT patents? http://api500.com/post/46951162382/apis-are-the-new-patents

This is the script.google.com and webshell.io project, making a cloud framework for APIs, so for the web-as-a-platform enabling developers to use webservices with a unique Javascript interface.

It follows the defacto standards of the web and not trying to invent a new standard.

- HTTP

- REST/JSON

- Node.js ( Google prefers using Rhino because Appengine does't support Node.js but Java)

- Github (Google prefers using Google Drive)

- Javascript as the glue of APIs by transforming API endpints into Javascript Objects, client-side or server-side.

- HTML views to generate with API calls

Webshell.io has an open API that Google Apps Script doesn't yet.

The webshell's blog is "building an internet operating system" for the web-as-aplatform, where APIs are the "drivers" of the web.

So definitively the web as a platform is coming.

The true question behind this post is : the web is a decentralized network, so will developers will use a centralized platform for making applications on the web? Is open source platforms the solution?

They are killing the promise of Internet-as-a-platform... and open APIs trust. http://apijoy.tumblr.com/post/40831434657/twitter-api-and-it...

Have you already been there? what did you learn, make, or who did you met that you could only do there? I love cutting edege technologies and I watch Google I/O videos on Youtube, but I want to understand here why I would pay $900 for attending.

This is after the Google vs Oracle, the 2nd court case of API Neutrality enforcement. http://api500.com/post/31465739810/what-is-api-neutrality

I've never been to Google I/O, could you please explain why people go there and what is the main focus of the event. Networking with Googlers? Networking with attendees? Make business with Google? for Googlers keynotes?

To answer the article, learning what will not be our everyday job is called "curiosity, knowledge and culture" If we keep going it will be a skill.

Learning is never a waste of time. If it is not valuable for your work and your goal , you will not go as far as masterize it and stop it. So not loosing so much time but just opened your mind to other way to think. Either a foreign language, a book, a programming language...

To answer the article, learning what will not be our everyday job is called "curiosity, knowledge and culture"

I completly agree. We often forget that an API is still an interface, and it is often more a designer and part that a technical part.(but still a technical part or maybe a cultural technical part) In Real Life, product interface design or service interface design is often better made by external desiner that focus on understanding OBJECTIVELY how users will and want interact with , than the original producer or provider which will be affected by what he wants to expose and its history and vision about his product.

I think this says that sometime the "crowd" or independant monitors share the information better and faster than the offcial source. But yes it is trust 2 times further. The provider of the information which talk about the API provider... This is why trust is the most important for the API ecosystem http://api500.com/post/27336458175/developers-are-the-blood-...

Twitter, faceook, Linkedin... And so much more that are in reality not open and can revoke you at any time for any reason.

Thanks. Yes we know ql.io. from our knowledge ql.io is more for server side API scripting, focused on data.

With webshell, we are more focused on services execution, as for client side as server side.

For example we enable custom HTML views for GoogleMaps, Google Chart, Twitter feeds or other APIs.

The main difference is that we combine all kind of APIs. We also made a platform on top of the language.

This plaform enables to re-use each script as a new REST/JSON API by other developers, thanks our file system designed as a kind of "Github for APIs."

This post makes me think to this : http://apijoy.tumblr.com/post/34286521181/when-i-assist-at-a...

France propose to tax companies which don't open API of personal data they collect http://api500.com/post/40846639254/taxing-companies-which-do...

This is not an Internet Tax...

It will be on all personnal data. These APIs will have to open all these data to the user, so he would be able to connect to other 3rd party services with all these personnal data he wants to share. If these companies don't open, the'll have to pay Numerical Value Added Taxes according to the document

For better understanding why we need an "API to rule them all" you can check the http://apijoy.tumblr.com about everyday's developer pain with APIs.

You say 8000 APIs, but for example on http://apihub.com , you have more than 13000 APIs registered. And OpenAPIs are only the emerged part of the iceberg. Soooooooo many services ran by private APIs in big companies...more than you expect.

This is not always the "standard" which wins. You may have also de-facto standards like MS-DOS in 1980' which was an "shell to rule them all" and which has made Microsoft a multi-billionar company and has been more used than UNIX which was better and open!

Either is the standard, either it the the most adapted product/company (not necesseraly technologically) which wins the pot. This is technology AND business model, user community, strategic partnerships which will make an API to rule them all a defacto standard which will lead the programmable web. But you're right that IETF standards for APIs may be so long that I consider it is not possible untill decades !(or a leader which will open and free its winning standart to all only)

Will you do it for non-developers like

http://Zapier.com, http://IFTTT.com, http://rules.io and http://elastic.io, http://ritc.io , http://kynetx.com/

or more focused on developers like :

http://temboo.com, http://singly.com, http://webscript.io, http://cloudsnap.com, http://script.google.com , http://webshell.io

What would be your main paradigm and what do you want to bring to the ecosystem?

Disclosure : I work for webshell.io and lol to see that your post make reactions of lots of API of APIs company (Singly, Cloudsnap, Ritc.io)

If some one in this page wants to reach us for open discussion for making the web programmable in an easier way team[at]webshell.io

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Like arabic of hebrew in real life....;)

Like text somehow.... :)

sorry but no download with Salesforce, (following my request) and they are still SPOF for CRM right?

But yes for a desktop you are right. "credit card details and download"

Very long sales processes but yes. It is better to be a Salesforce-like platform... How Salesforce did to enforce a cloud platform as a SPOF for CRM?

A micro-service (or micro-API)creation by scripting existing APIs, in Javascript?

Or a Google Apps Script for not only "Google" APIs?

IFTTT for developers? with all I/O that API can really provide and the whole expressivity of Javascript for making more advanced scripts?

what kind of service are you talking about exactly?

But what would be the business model for such a desktop app?

What you talk about is a kind of "blue ocean strategy" applied to investors.

Red investors oceans represent to all the industries in existence today – the known Investor space. In the red oceans, investors boundaries are defined and accepted, and the competitive rules of the game are known. Here start-ups try to outperform their other start-ups rivals to grab a greater share of investment demand. As the funding market space gets crowded, prospects for high valuation and rapid investments are reduced. Products become commodities or niche, and cutthroat competition turns the ocean bloody; hence, the term red oceans.

Blue investor oceans, in contrast, denote all the industries not in existence today – the unknown investor market space, untainted by start-up competition. In blue oceans, investment demand is created rather than fought over. There is ample opportunity for high valuation and rapid investment. In blue oceans, start-up competition for funding is irrelevant because the rules of the game are waiting to be set. Blue investment ocean is an analogy to describe the wider, deeper potential of investor space that is not yet explored.

(Adaptation of Wkipedia article on blue ocean strategy for investment for start-ups)

In your article the "guilder-investing angels" are the blue ocean for investment in start-ups.