marcoceppi

Since the GPU libraries are hosted on the node, privileged flag is typically required to make that possible. I'm sure there will be improvements to not require privileged, but today it's mostly a requirement to get anything useful out of containers tapping into GPU.

That said, if you set the allow-privileged flag to false GPU drivers will still be installed but you may not be able to make use of the cuda cores

Gluster is a good alternative, Ceph can be prickly if you don't want a block device and instead just need a filesystem. CephFS fills sort of the same role, but does so on top of Ceph rbd.

Since GlusterFS /can use/ NFSv4 as a client, it should work with the stuff @samco_23 uses

I agree, I usually update defaults so that python => python3. However, PEP has some guidance on how this should be handled[1].

I imagine Ubuntu (Debian, et al) is following these guidelines. It would be cool to have a push for those who still depend not only on Python2 but on `/usr/bin/python` being py2 to update their app - or at least update their packaging :)

[1]: https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0394/

I'm curious what init system would you prefer?

There's a bit of pre-setup. I'll make sure we have DreamCompute in the installer out of the box soon.

Here's what that setup looks like: https://asciinema.org/a/7ba3snjdkxybmgisbm8430c34

OpenShift is an interesting product, because it's not just Kubernetes, but a PAAS on top of Kubernetes packaged as a single solution. As a result you're not using k8s, but OpenShift / Origin. This has pros and cons which mainly boild down to simplicity vs lock in.

Honestly, I'd suggest you shop around, comparing CDK to OpenShift would be kind of like comparing virtual machines to a cloud provider. In that, virtual machines are implemented in a ton of ways, but cloud providers are a platform which abstracts that whole VM layer and provides a product on top of VMs.

Much in the same way we're packaging up and distributing that underlying engine. There's a lot of flexibility with that. You can use Kuberentes directly, you can leverage Helm which is what a lot of the community seems to be moving towards for package management on k8s, and then things like Deis and others implement that PAAS layer similar to OpenShift.

Why I'd recommend this method over OpenShift is the flexibility we afford you. For starters, things like Helm and Deis don't come as a part of CDK but will work out of the box on it. Since it's just delivering Kubernetes the platform. As such, if you try Deis and don't like it, you could try Kel or any other PAAS / tool built to work against vanilla Kubernetes. With OpenShift - you use it and that's the choice you're saddled with.

At the end of the day, take some time to try both. Deis is quite polished and would give you an idea of what to expect from other PAAS solutions. It's built on Helm which is part of Kubernetes so it's less deltas from what upstream is doing.

We don't begin integration testing at day 0 of release, we are constantly integration testing.

That said, five days is a goal of ours, not a hard deadline or SLA. An example of this was the 1.5.2. This came out 8 or 9 days after upstream because we had failing integration and e2e tests starting a few days before release and it took some time to hunt down, address, and make sure it was an issue with how we're deploying k8s and not k8s itself.

Hopefully that clarifies how we're able to to stride towards that goal. To be honest, testing like this is as much and art as it is a science and it's taken quite a while to get to where we are now (and admittedly, still a ways to go until we're satisfied).

Let me know if have any other questions!

First off, sage math looks awesome \m/. This is a great question, I'll be making sure we update our docs and pages to highlight these differences, here's a few that might be helpful for you:

From an installation standpoint you get the same Kubernetes /everywhere/. You can run this on all the public clouds, e.g. AWS, GCE, Azure, Rackspace, etc., and on private infrastructure like OpenStack, VMWare, and bare metal. And any Ubuntu machine, like a laptop, single server, etc.

CDK as a whole is really just applying operational knowledge around Kubernetes. We are not adding any additional bits to k8s, we distribute the same binaries as upstream. If you stop using our tools, you can still manage the cluster as if you'd stood it up by hand. Since we're distilling operations, and not just installation, we cover the entire breadth of lifecycle tasks. Come 1.5.3, 1.6.0 (+ etcd3), and beyond we work to make sure tasks like upgrades work reliably and consistently.

We also present a consistent interface to common maintenance tasks, so that everyone using the solution uses the same primitives for maintenance. This helps eliminate the need to SSH and hunt around for these tasks. All the operational code we produce is open source, it lives in the upstream tree, and we love contributions!

Our roadmap for features is driven almost exclusively by our users, both community and commercial.

I could probably write pages, but I think those are probably the starting points for things we're doing as a distribution of Kubernetes. If you have any specific issues while running k8s, I'm happy to help answer how we handle those, if we do.

It's super clean already with CDK. You just issue a single command from your laptop, something like: `juju add-unit k8s-node` or `juju add-unit -n 10 k8s-node`. This will provision a new machine wherever you're running Kubernetes (AWS/GCE/Azure/Rackspace/OpenStack/VMWare/Bare metal/locally), install kubelet, configure the SDN you've chosen, and have it available to schedule workloads.

As kubectl moves to ready status, we'll look to use it more under the covers to help conform to upstream's recommendations.

https://kubernetes.io/docs/getting-started-guides/ubuntu/sca...

We're still "beta" so we have been able to release within 10 after upstream.

With recent updates to our build/ci process, we're able to constantly test master. This means we can bless releases days after being cut. Expect GA for CDK around 1.6.0 release time, which we will be driving for release blessed within five business days of upstream.

Hey HN, PM for Canonical's Kubernetes (CDK) here. Feel free to ask questions!

Thanks for the feedback, my original sentence may have been a bit hasty, but the core of the message is there. I see Canonical's role as the expediter/server in a kitchen instead of donning another chef hat when dish are piling up to go out. We want to celebrate and get the amazing work of the community into as many hands as possible.

We participate in SIGs as well, sig-on-premise being one we co-chair and co-founded. We've planning on helping the project in ways other than code contributions.

Unlike other companies, we don't jump in to upstream projects and throw weight around to influence a project to make it more marketable for us. Kubernetes has a vibrant, and powerful core contributor base already. When it makes sense, for any changes we make, we'll be happy to package those back upstream. Primarily, our contributions to Kubernetes is around operations. What happens 1 week, 1 month, 1 year after setting up a cluster.

GKE is great, but GKE is Google only. It's not on-prem, it's not cross cloud, and it's not portable. That's important to some people. Our contributions to cluster/juju is the distillation of our operational knowledge in running Kubernetes everywhere. The same upstream k8s, deployed with the same tooling, everywhere.

Not all value can be measured in commits :)

Typically ceph for rbd

If you're looking for bare metal, have you tried using MAAS and Juju? https://jujucharms.com/kubernetes-core/

This is a nice write up, but we honestly needed to stand up kubernetes on-premise and in public/private clouds. This is why we've been using this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7nMFVaOOi8

On the same vein, there are plenty of Xen machines that are vulnerable despite the host OS being updated (which, honestly, I don't thing happens as quickly as it should considering it requires a restart for new kernel params). With things like live-patching, updating the kernel once, while running, makes sure all guests are also updated as well.

It's a trade off, but one that seems to trend towards more secure despite potentially a few quirks.

Sure, Xen is a hypervisor - just like KVM and a whole host of others, but Xen is /very/ heavy from a resource utilization. Xen doesn't produce lightweight VMs, they're traditional virtulation. You can produce 13 times more density with no performance trade off. No virtio, no paravirtualization, using native kernel primitives to get you machines that feel like "docker" containers, but are actual full machines.

There's more than one type of container. Docker, and docker flavors (runc, rkt, etc). LXD is a machine container, it's the same technology that Docker was first built off of, but it's a hypervisor for really dense machines that are as light as process containers.

Snaps is a package format that gives you a cross (linux) platform distribution, atomic updates, security, and isolation. It's not really like docker as it's not a density story, there's no unique TCP/IP stack, etc.

Somewhat old? That's basically ancient.

We've opensourced our setup: http://www.jorgecastro.org/2016/07/29/ubuntu-kubernetes-v1-d...

Have you tried to juju to set up things like hdfs and hadoop and the things that plug into it?

This is a great starting point. We're been running Kubernetes in production alongside an OpenStack for a while and charm'd up the deployment: https://jujucharms.com/kubernetes-core. The majority of the information here (and more) seems to already be encapsulated: `juju deploy kubernetes-core`. Since we need things like logging and monitoring, we bolted the elastic stack on the side and called it observable kubernetes: `juju deploy observable-kubernetes`.

While one-liners are typically pretty limited, the charms come with quite a few knobs to help tweak for deployments.

http://www.jorgecastro.org/2016/07/29/ubuntu-kubernetes-v1-d...

There's still room to improve, but we've been happy with the cluster so far. Considering Juju and charms are open source. Eitherway, great guide for those getting started.

You do not need to login to anything to install a snap.

> CoreOS and Red Hat are sponsors of The New Stack.

We'll, it'll be in Ubuntu 16.04 :)

That article is almost a year old now. Considering Wily and Xenial are systemd based I'm going to assume the LXD/LXC folks have figured this out.

As for your last comment, yeah these are system containers - lighterweight virtual machines and not docker containers. They're meant to replicate and entire machine, with an init, more attuned to a VPS/VM and not an application container.

There are LXD images for Ubuntu, CentOS, Gentoo, Plamo, and other Linux operating systems. So you can really boot most any Linux as you would a VM. Between that and it's use as a hypervisor in OpenStack it gets flexed pretty heavily. Though I agree, more people should be using it!

Yes, we were also surprised by the difference. We'd like to try with OpenJDK 8 instead to see if it's performance was better overall, but the charm for Cassandra doesn't include that as an option yet.

Not had this problem as I always get my phones unlocked from the vendor, but I believe the pitch was more along that line rather than the persistent joy of waiting months after an update lands only to find out Verizon isn't going to patch their version of the mobile operating system and push the update.