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It comes down to supply and demand. There are legions of young, passionate gamers who want to “work with their passion”. Why they stick with it, I’m not sure. I certainly didn’t.
Always in fitness you have a group of customers who are not into fitness and making an aspirational purchase. However, there is also a group (probably larger than the hardcore weightlifter types) of fitness-oriented people who aren’t trying to lift heavy weights and they use apps, workout classes, and HIIT training with light weights.
Peleton/Mirror suit this group well. Both of my parents - who are older but fit - do almost 100% of their workouts on the Peleton now. My roommate, a former D1 athlete runs and does fitness classes via app. In both cases they were doing this before COVID, and quarantine is obviously causing many others to embrace this as well.
Instead of a reimbursement-based approach, where employees pay insurance premiums themselves and submit them for reimbursement (like a business expense), we manage the payments for employees. This means the insurance bill is paid by the employer and any extra employee contribution is deducted from payroll. We do it this way so that the employee contribution is also tax-free.
We are also investing heavily in helping employees find the right plan. Behind the scenes our brokers are recommending plans for every employee, and we are building out tools that help employees do things like find a plan with a specific doctor or hospital in network.
To your point on employees quitting - one of the benefits of Savvy is that if you change jobs, your insurance can stay with you as it is no longer tied to your employer.
The reason right now is that we work with outside experts to draft and review the legal plan documents for every customer that signs up. Because this is such a new thing we think it's worth spending extra to be sure we are buttoned up from a compliance standpoint. This has an upfront cost we need to cover. Once we bring this in-house we can think about the pricing differently.
If you work for a large employer, you have benefits professionals who spend all year thinking about this - we work with small employers who don't have these kinds of resources and are happy to offload it onto us.
To answer your question: The premiums will be deducted from your account, and any extra employee contribution would be deducted, tax-free, from the employees paycheck. We integrate with Gusto to set this up for you.
I am happy to walk you through the specifics: kev@gosavvy.com
If cost is the primary driver for your decision the important thing is to compare the PEO fees vs how much money you will save on the discounted insurance. We have helped a few companies do this analysis - On a pure cost basis, we are a better option for some, PEOs win for others. Feel free to reach out to hn@gosavvy.com if you want advice on your specific situation.
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/association-health-plans
We think other companies offering ICHRA services are a good thing. It's a new option that can help a lot of people, and more vendors will spread the word faster. Savvy works a little differently than the existing solutions.
Instead of a reimbursement-based approach, where employees pay insurance premiums themselves and submit them for reimbursement (like a business expense), we manage the payments for employees. This means the insurance bill is paid by the employer and any extra employee contribution is deducted from payroll. We do it this way so that the employee contribution is also tax-free.
We are also investing heavily in helping employees find the right plan. Behind the scenes our brokers are recommending plans for every employee, and we are building out tools that help employees do things like find a plan with a specific doctor or hospital in network.
Small group prices can, on average, be more or less competitive than the individual market, depending on geography. In recent years, the prices of both types of insurance have been trending towards similarity, but there is still substantial variation region-by-region.
Small groups can get large price increases if their members have serious health issues, and for them it can be cheaper to use us and get employees all the same tax savings, but buy on the individual market.
We try to streamline the experience as much as possible, and put in a lot of work building an interface that explains the plan details in-app.
And you always have the option to tell one of our brokers "None of these work for me, I want to make sure Dr. Smith is in my network, show me more options".