jessehorne

Good points. I agree that employees shouldn't need to pay to find work but I feel it's more competitive than you think for a lot of people out there right now. Just looking for solutions.

Also, it's one of those things where you don't have to do anything. If you want to pay to get some advantage, then you can.

Thx for the feedback. I'm going to have to think on all of this a bit. Perhaps the "agent" route isn't the best solution.

I'm sorry you're going through this. I am in the same boat. I made a post that might (maybeee?) be relevant?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38637006

Exactly! That's my problem with recruiters. They get paid to place "someone", not "you".

As far as me not really expecting to get paid is that I'm hoping to try this for a little while and see what the right business model is. I'm hoping it will be easier to get some tests done if it's at no cost/risk to the client.

I definitely plan on being clear with numbers/pricing once the service is more defined.

Thank you a ton for your input :-)

That's a great idea. Thank you! I'll take it into account with the next iteration. The interviews part is going to be hard though. I don't know if that's allowed. :-)

Also, If you aren't willing yet to pay someone to apply to jobs for you, then you are not the target audience. But let me know if there's anything related you'd pay for. That's how the idea came up for me. I was like "damn I wish I could just pay someone to do this".

I'm a resume submitter with technical knowledge and the applicant pays what they want. I'm okay with you assuming I'm less well-connected BUT it's in my best interest to get you offers. It's in their best interest to get someone offers. That's the big distinction. And no, no one else would be paying me. Maybe that's something to pursue? Who knows. YC talks about doing the manual stuff to validate and to learn and to research. So that's what I'm doing.

You're not being blunt. You're asking questions. That's ok. :-)

If I understand correctly, you mean by applying to this, it's not "not applying" or that me applying for you is not "not applying"?

Will take your confusion and my new confusion into account. Thx

Let's do it. My contact information is in my description.

Feels bad. Good luck to everyone. This job market is bad enough as it is. I'll see ya'll in retail or woodworking. o7

Thanks! Yeah, worst case I get to change careers and keep doing it as a hobby.

Now you know two. :-)

I like you. We'd get along.

Despite having such a rich history of body art? Actually the history itself answers my question. I get it.

Just keep me in the back. I'll code and you can raise the funds.

I lived in the triangle for a year or so. It was quite an experience. Thanks for sharing! I've heard from a few friends that Utah is booming.

There's a wikipedia page talking about your accomplishments Mr. Bright. Never thought you'd comment on one of my HN posts but here we are. :-)

Thank you for sharing. It reminds me I need to put more effort into applications. Cool projects btw :-)

I'm definitely going to look into open positions. Rec Room looks awesome. I'll see if I can come up with a project they'd be impressed by. ;)

Not directly related, but I'm working on some short stories inspired by some of the hacker/cyberpunk literature from the 80's and since I grew up and learned programming in the late 90's early 2000's, I feel completely inadequate at writing cheesy hacker stories.

Keep them old timer stories a' comin'.

It's funny you say this. After struggling to find work (but mostly to find meaningful work), I've committed myself to pursuing jobs related to my curiosities/interests. I didn't really do that before. Over time, I've started to narrow down based off of what I'm genuinely interested in. That way I don't have to lie when I say I'm "passionate" about something I'm working on. :-)

Hey quick question, how do I get a job at Amazon? ;) jk

I love "A job is not everything in someone’s life, but it’s very, very important to love your job." from your article. After a couple burnouts over a decade in this industry, I truly seek positions I at least think I'll love.

I've heard from many that writing can help build credibility for hiring purposes. I have committed myself to writing at least something on all future projects because of this. Thanks for the tip.

p.s your use of "Technophilosopher" and "chaos magician" to describe yourself is incredible

I've put a lot of hours into factorio. This is amazing. I genuinely love the art style in the gif.

Care to elaborate? Never had the money to invest but have dabbled with some very basic auto trading algos. Long story short, before I learned any math related to gambling, I didn't understand why martingale can't work in gambling or investment. Now I do. :P

Thanks for the advice. Didn't want to seem like I was advertising so I didn't go into detail of what I was doing but I think you're right, I can at least talk about the industry. It's a tech recruiting agency that's focused on quality over quantity, leveraging modern (and interesting, fun and new methods) to get the right sort of talent and to truly qualify them based on real skills and help train them if they're not ready. Being an engineer in this industry for over 8 years professionally, it is painfully obvious what's wrong with tech recruiting these days and we're working on the solution(s). One way we're saving money is by targeting our marketing and utilizing methods to find engineers that are more appealing to the engineers themselves. One way we're not planning to save money is on the investment we make into candidates. The idea is, if an engineer makes it to a certain level with us, their growth is our growth. I see that as an investment and not a loss.

I am happy to hear of your success and that you would tackle more on your own. Are there any examples of things you would take over as technical people and things you would absolutely avoid doing on your own?

Do you have any advice on managing equity at this (early) stage? It is actually something very new to me. I havent been able to apply it anywhere yet. Maybe time to find a business consultant. Sort of answers my question. :)

That’s something I have learned before and have definitely been taking the strategy into consideration so far. We have iterated a little bit through a product but at the moment we are getting partners to help us better understand how to use our approach to solve their problems. In the limited amount of iterations we have done so far the results have been great. Thank you for the awesome advice.

There's nothing unnatural about what you're feeling. Sometimes it will be better and sadly, sometimes it will be worse. I think the first step is to realize that it's natural and there is nothing wrong with you.

Second, I'm going to be real blunt here and this isn't going to help me in any interviews but it needs to be said. Ask yourself a serious question, "Is this job worth my suffering?". If you need time away to go on a walk, learn how to paint, read a book, hiking, or just working on a side project, you need to ask for it. If you're lucky enough to be a job that will understand that then take advantage of it. If your job makes it more difficult then don't stress but it might be time to try to find another job. If a company asked me to work 60+hrs a week I would laugh. If I wanted to work 60 hours, they wouldn't need to ask. Also it's very freeing to take your job less serious and in all honesty, I see improved performance when I'm in that mood.

Some people say pick up a non-related hobby... I think it's simpler than that, really. Just think of what you want to do at any given time and go do that in your time off. My problem in the past has always been making excuses to not do the things I actually wanted to do in my spare time.

There's a bunch more I could speak on this but I think this is fine for now. Go do something fun. Do what you want to do.

I have been a user for years now, mostly just skimming through when I get the time. It's been extremely positive whenever I became engaged. I don't knock peoples attempts to money grab. You have to eat and there's money here. However, it makes me cringe nonetheless. What I'd really like to see more of (and maybe it's here and I miss it) is when people do share their startup or something, give the nitty gritty and try in all ways possible to make it beneficial to this community, through learning, some sort of engagement or pure giving stuff away. Give a little and HN will always deliver.